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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 13:43, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
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- ... that in her song "Icy Chain", Saweetie disses PETA, telling them she wears fur? Source: The Line of Best Fit
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WAZS (AM)
- Comment: Open to rewording the hook.
Converted from a redirect by VersaceSpace (talk). Self-nominated at 18:56, 18 September 2022 (UTC).
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| Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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| QPQ: Done. |
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New enough, long enough and definitely interesting given that there's a diss against PETA. Just missing the QPQ here, VersaceSpace, and once that's done we should be good to go. --Sky Harbor (talk) 21:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Sky Harbor: QPQ done. —VersaceSpace 🌃 01:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you!
Now good to go. --Sky Harbor (talk) 21:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- @VersaceSpace and Sky Harbor: I'd want to give this some real-world grounding; maybe it'd be hookier if we stuck in PETA's response? And a little mystery... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 17:35, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in response to Saweetie's song, "Icy Chain", PETA sent her a faux-fur coat?
- @Theleekycauldron: I deliberately avoided doing this because 1. it prompts the reader to follow the link, 2. most people won't know what "faux-fur" is off the dome so it would be less hooky. —VersaceSpace 🌃 20:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- @VersaceSpace: don't we want users to follow the link to Icy Chain? And we can write faux-fur as fake-fur... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:48, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I must have phrased that awkwardly. I mean that by telling the reader less, they are intrigued and therefore click the link. On top of that, the hook you present says PETA responded to the song, but it doesn't actually specify what part of the song they're responding to. That will confuse or turn away a reader. —VersaceSpace 🌃 21:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- @VersaceSpace: I promise I'll stop pushing after this, but couldn't it be kind of the opposite? Like, it's the mystery of ALT1 that intrigues, by telling the reader less. I'd also say that while it's true that ALT0 doesn't give the full story, i would have had no idea that there was more to the story just from reading the hook – clicking is worth it, but there's no way for me to know that from the outset. Also, pop-culture can be interesting, but I always find quite intriguing when it interacts with and affects the real world. Anyways, that's my shpiel. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have a problem clarifying that PETA responded in the hook, I just don't want to explain how. So maybe we can incorporate your idea into a new hook? —VersaceSpace 🌃 11:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- I can't think of a way to word that that wouldn't sound Buzzfeed-esque (you won't believe how they responded!), so I suppose we'd be back to ALT0. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:09, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Okay, well then I would like to leave the hook as is. —VersaceSpace 🌃 00:19, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
- I can't think of a way to word that that wouldn't sound Buzzfeed-esque (you won't believe how they responded!), so I suppose we'd be back to ALT0. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:09, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have a problem clarifying that PETA responded in the hook, I just don't want to explain how. So maybe we can incorporate your idea into a new hook? —VersaceSpace 🌃 11:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- @VersaceSpace: I promise I'll stop pushing after this, but couldn't it be kind of the opposite? Like, it's the mystery of ALT1 that intrigues, by telling the reader less. I'd also say that while it's true that ALT0 doesn't give the full story, i would have had no idea that there was more to the story just from reading the hook – clicking is worth it, but there's no way for me to know that from the outset. Also, pop-culture can be interesting, but I always find quite intriguing when it interacts with and affects the real world. Anyways, that's my shpiel. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I must have phrased that awkwardly. I mean that by telling the reader less, they are intrigued and therefore click the link. On top of that, the hook you present says PETA responded to the song, but it doesn't actually specify what part of the song they're responding to. That will confuse or turn away a reader. —VersaceSpace 🌃 21:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- @VersaceSpace: don't we want users to follow the link to Icy Chain? And we can write faux-fur as fake-fur... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:48, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I deliberately avoided doing this because 1. it prompts the reader to follow the link, 2. most people won't know what "faux-fur" is off the dome so it would be less hooky. —VersaceSpace 🌃 20:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you!
