Talk:Idontwannabeyouanymore

GA Review

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Reviewer: LOVI33 (talk · contribs) 21:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I'm hoping to finish this review by the end of the day. If not, I will finish tomorrow. LOVI33 21:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Cover art needs alt text.
• Remove defunct Format parameter
• Length says 3:23 but Track listing section says 3:24 so which one is it?
• Remove target on Billie Eilish under songwriters per WP:OVERLINK
• "a song recorded by American singer Billie Eilish." → "a song by American singer Billie Eilish from her debut EP, Don't Smile at Me (2017)." with targets
• "It was released by Darkroom and Interscope Records as the fifth single from Eilish's debut studio EP, Don't Smile at Me (2017)." → "It was released through Darkroom and Interscope Records on July 21, 2017 as the fifth single from the EP." Also put this sentence after the songwriter/producer one.

•  Not done, only half of this. Make sure to put it after the mention of Eilish and Finneas as songwriters

• "Musically an neo soul, pop, R&B track with a jazz-influenced instrumentation, the song was heavily inspired by Eilish being depressed." → "Musically, the song is neo soul, pop, and R&B track with a jazz-influenced melody, that was heavily inspired by Eilish being depressed." with targets; per source
• "peaked at number 96" → "reached number 96"

Background and release

• "was thought up after Eilish felt seriously depressed." → "was conceived when Eilish was suffering from depression."
• "The song is about someone not wanting to be themselves." Shouldn't this sentence be in the Composition and lyrical interpretation section?
• "Eilish told Genius in a statement that" → "In an interview with Genius, Eilish stated"
• "She compares the song with "Copycat", which is about a girl who continues doing everything Eilish is doing." → "She compared the song to her 2017 single "Copycat"."
• Target single to Single (music)
• Target EP to Extended play
• Add the release year of Don't Smile at Me in brackets after it
• You need sources to back up the fact that she compared it to "Copycat" and its single release

user:LOVI33, she compared it in the video interview with Genius.

• "mastered and mixed the song" → " handled the mastering and mixing, respectively."
• "The track was remixed by Elijah Hill" → "A remix by Elijah Hill"
• target future bass to itself

Composition and lyrical interpretation

• "starts "with a gentle lilt" at 57 beats per minute (BPM)" → "has a gentle lilt tempo of 57 beats per minute (BPM)" per source
• "range between" → "range from"
• Target G₃ to G (musical note)
• Target D₅ to D (musical note)
• "jazz-influenced R&B, neo soul and pop track." → "neo soul, pop, and R&B track with a jazz-influenced melody."
• The source says "Neo soul-styled"
• "Jenn" → "Jem" mispelling
• The variety sources says that many critics cited Del Rey and Winehouse as influences and doesn't mention the production so re-word that sentence to "Many critics noted influences from Lana Del Rey and Amy Winehouse in the song."
• "with piano and Eilish begins" → "with a piano, before Eilish begins" Also start a new paragraph starting with this sentence
• Atwood source doesn't seem to back up how Eilish sings about not wanting herself. If I am missing something could you quote it?

user:LOVI33 it backs it up about her singing about models and people's tendencies to judge someone for what the clothes they wear. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 03:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes but it doesn't say anything about her "not wanting herself." That is the source you used to backup that statement. LOVI33 22:47, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Critical reception

• Change title to "Reception"

Critical response

• "Nicole Almedia writing for" → "Nicole Almedia of" to avoid repetition
• "vocals in the song as" → "vocals as"
• ". and" remove period
• "that she is capable of" → "her capability of"
• "Jess Bartlet writing for Earmilk" → "In her review for Earmilk, Jess Bartlet"
• "labeled the track has a" → "stated the track has a"
• "2018's best songs. Libby Torres remarked that" → "2018's best songs, with Libby Torres remarking that"

 Not done

user:LOVI33, I didn't mean to put "2018's best songs" for insider. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 06:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

• Unitalicize Every single Billie Eilish song ranked in order of greatness and put it in quotes

Commercial performance

• "became Eilish's third single to debut on the US Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100 songs chart." → "became Eilish's third entry on the US Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100 songs chart." Maybe also mention its entry position and entry date.
• You need a source to back up that it entered the Bubbling under hot 100 chart.
• "rose to number 96 the US Billboard Hot 100 chart" → "rose to number 96 on the chart"
• You need a source to back up that it rose to 96 on the Billboard hot 100
• "and has received a gold certification from the" → "and was certified gold by the"
• "which denotes track-equivalent sales of 400,000 units" → "for track-equivalent sales of 400,000 units"
• "receiving a platinum certification from" → "being awarded a platinum certification from"
• "which denotes track-equivalent sales of 80,000." → "for 80,000 track-equivalent unit sales."

Promotion

• "Eilish released a vertical video to accompany the song and premiered it on Spotify." → "Eilish premiered a Spotify-released vertical video to accompany the song."
• You need a source for the video being released onto Youtube
• "writng" → "writing"
• "Eilish has performed "Idontwannabeyouanymore" a number of times." → "Eilish has promoted "Idontwannabeyouanymore" with several live performances."
• "Eilish performed the track live" → "She performed the track live"
• "on the setlist of her"
• ""Idontwannabeyouanymore" was performed at Pukkelpop in August 2019." → "She also performed the track at Pukkelpop in August 2019."
• "on a live album" What live album?
• "of the same year" → "of that year"
• "Eilish performed "Idontwannabeyouanymore" at the Steve" → "She performed the track at the Steve"
• Either mention Finneas by his stage name or surname, don't mix it.

Covers

• Add the Elijah Hill remix mention here and rename it to "Remixes and covers" since the remix wasn't released by Eilish

user:LOVI33, already mentioned in the background. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 04:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry bad wording. You should move it here since it was not released by Eilish's record label. LOVI33 22:47, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

• "it would go viral" → "it went viral"
• "On July 15, 2020, Australian masked singer Sheldon Riley, covered "Idontwannabeyouanymore" for his audition for America's Got Talent." → "In his audition for America's Got Talent on July 15, 2020, Australian masked singer Sheldon Riley covered the track."
• "Kelly Clarkson, covered the song the track from her home for her talk show, The Kelly Clarkson Show" → "Kelly Clarkson, covered it for her talk show, The Kelly Clarkson Show, live from her home."
• "Gil Kaufman writing for Billboard" → "Gil Kaufman of Billboard"

Track listing

• The Elijah Hill Remix wasn't released by Eilish nor her record label, it seems like it is just a remix released by the remixer online, especially since it was released on soundcloud. This section should be removed because of that. The remix needs an actual track listing from digital download or streaming services like Apple Music, Tidal, Deezer, Spotify, etc, not YouTube or Soundcloud. Since the remix is being removed, it makes having this section redundant with just 1 listing.

Credits and personnel

• Change to simply Personnel since there is no management or recording locations
• Remove targets on Billie Eilish, Finneas O'Connell, and Rob Kinelski per WP:OVERLINK
• use {{spaced ndash}} to ensure the correct spacing between credits

Charts

• Use {{col-start}} to put the weekly and year-end charts on different sides of the page
• MOS:TABLECAPTION for both chart types

Certifications

• MOS:TABLECAPTION

References

• Copyvio score looks good at 36.3%
• Make sure all these are archived

 Not done

• Ref 2: link is broken, cite Tidal as publisher, mispelling of Idontwannabeyouanymore in the title
• Ref 4: Cite YouTube as via with the target, title is incorrect, cite Trap Nation as author
• Ref 6, 11, 16, 23, 27, 30: MOS:QWQ issues

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold for now. I will look forward to seeing your responses. LOVI33 01:47, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

user:LOVI33, thank you so much for the review! Lmk if anything else needs to be done. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 04:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey The Ultimate Boss, I have responded to all your comments above. Also some of the comments appear to not be addressed. LOVI33 22:47, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

User:LOVI33, can you please point those out? The Ultimate Boss (talk) 00:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss, I have done that. Make sure to also respond to my responses of your comments above. You appear to have not addressed them. LOVI33 01:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

User:LOVI33, Done! The Ultimate Boss (talk) 06:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I think this is ready for GA now. LOVI33 14:11, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 2 October 2020

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus. BD2412 T 20:29, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Idontwannabeyouanymore → I Don't Wanna Be You Anymore – Wikipedia doesn’t support stylizations, and this is very clearly stylized. Doggy54321 (talk) 23:18, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

• Support. Wikipedia should not copy styling. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:22, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support. (As for stylisation, I notice the nomination fails MOS:STRAIGHT quotes :) ). But keep the R of course, as {{R from stylization}}, or even {{R from stylisation}}, depending on your zstyle. WP is not totally against stylization, if it is the WP:COMMONNAME. But here, the WP:FIRSTSENTENCE says itself that it is stylized, so it's a nob*rainer. 84.236.27.182 (talk) 13:48, 3 October 2020 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Comment Thank you. What exactly do you mean by the nominated page fails Straight Quotes? The quote in the "Don't" is straight. I also removed stylizations and added the disclaimer in the first sentence last night :) Thanks! Doggy54321 (talk) 13:52, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

• Support This type of stylization does not belong in the title. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose, from WP:AT: "Although titles for articles are subject to consensus, do not invent names or use extremely uncommon names as a means of compromising between opposing points of view. Wikipedia describes current usage but cannot prescribe a particular usage or invent new names." That said, can you provide sources using the proposed name? (CC) Tbhotch^™ 23:28, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. This isn't a stylization; it is literally the name of the song. Reliable sources used in the article confirm that. As Tbhotch points out, we don't invent names. -- Calidum 02:20, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per Tbhotch and Calidum. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 04:41, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.