Talk:Iliza Shlesinger
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Mention of Miscarriage
editIs it necessary to share with the general public that Ms. Schlesinger had suffered the tragedy of a miscarriage before giving birth to her daughter? I think not. I removed the below unfootnoted section about the miscarriage and the previous editor's remarks. NOTE to editors: Please think it over before restoring miscarriage history: Would you want this highly personal information in your own Wikipedia biography, whether or not you had at one time mentioned it in an interview?:
According to Schlesinger, as presented in her 2022 Hot Forever special,[where?] she and her husband had previously succeeded in conceiving, but she suffered a miscarriage about a year prior to the birth of her daughter.
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I think this information is unnecessary and inappropriate. MusaVeneziana(talk) 01:51, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Shelsinger, Iliza (2022). Iliza Shelsinger: Hot Forever (streaming video). Los Gatos, CA: Netflix. Event occurs at [unknown time]. Retrieved 21 April 2023.[full citation needed]
Use of Comedienne
editIs there a point to using Comedienne? Why not just comedian? MyopiaOwl (talk) 23:15, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Properly, "comedienne" is the feminine version of "comedian", much like "confidante" is to "confidant", "fiancée" to "fiancé", and "blonde" to "blond". I don't think most people pay attention to any of those though. They should. Grammar is good. 98.220.223.197 (talk) 20:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Comedienne is akin to Womyn. In that it's a made up word and has no relevance to this article. 106.68.191.184 (talk) 11:12, 15 November 2013 (UTC) Harlequin
- No, sorry, but "comedienne" is not a made-up word. It is the feminine form, adopted (along with its masculine form) into English from French (f. "comédienne"; m. "comédien").
- — al-Shimoni (talk) 09:01, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Is it really necessary though? I looked at the Wikipedia pages of various female comedians, and the use of the term "comedian" seems to be more frequent than the term "comedienne," at least from what I saw. While it is not a made-up worth with no substantial meaning, such as "womyn," "comedienne" is unnecessary when "comedian" is perfectly functional, gender neutral, and is more widespread.
- —GordonCreeman (talk) 00:45, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
all words are made up words. Benjamin5152414 (talk) 02:39, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
I’m here because I thought it was extremely odd that the article says Comedian instead of Comedienne. They call her an Actress instead of an Actor, but then it says Comedian. Now I know why. It was some strange person’s pet project to deprecate the word Comedienne which had previously been used properly and has previously been in common usage. I guess that’s what they call Wikifying an article. I might change it back to make the language more standard as well as more consistent, since, after all, we’re using the word actress, so why not?
Zionist or Average American of Jewish Heritage?
editThe link being used to link Iliza to Zionism points to a tweet where Iliza Schlesinger says she "supports Israel". This is hardly enough to substantiate the potential fundamentalist associations of a "Zionist" label. So many synagogues across America have a "Support Israel" sign in front of them; yet few are associated with hard-core Zionism, and are mostly comprised of good folk going on with their lives, contributing to the communities around them. If you are Jewish and live in America, it is more than likely you "Support Israel". It is also very possible that one can "Support Israel" and at the same time not support Israeli governmental policies in Gaza, or Israel expansionism, etc., or other hallmark policies of what would be seen as a more hard-core "Zionism". The label should be taken down, unless Iliza herself clarifies a more ardent position than has thus far been broadcast.
- (I had a comment here on the above, uncredited and undated comment, but I see that my comment maybe is moot, since apparently the Tweet that the above paragraph talks about is not in the Shlesinger article at all anymore, so I deleted it.)
"recently"
editThis sentence needs a date: "She recently began a podcast called Truth and Iliza." We don't know when a reader will come across this article, and by then the podcast's beginning may not be recent. Someone who knows when this podcast did begin, please insert it. I will check back on this in a week or so, and if it's not fixed, I'll try something makeshift, but I'd rather not. GcT (talk) 10:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Evidently I wasn't able to get back to this for seven months, rather than the week I anticipated. But my thanks to whoever obliged my request/suggestion.GcT (talk) 06:39, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- It is bad writing style to use vague non specific words like recently but more than that Wikipedia has a clear policy that time words should be avoided, but people keep doing it. -- 109.77.247.132 (talk) 21:52, 29 April 2018 (UTC)