Talk:Illmatic

Latest comment: 5 months ago by ModernDayTrilobite in topic Split proposal
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prose size copyediting stuff

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hello, in the middle of a copyedit of this. massive one, from the request on the GOCE page. as much as i love all of your research (seriously!! its crazy) another large tip i would give y'all is to possibly split this one up. an example would be with other albums like MBDTF, and how it features a page for each song. you have the research to to that and I think it would put the prose significantly down for an article with the complexities you all have. no need to take my advice, but feel free to discuss >:3 -Astral~(he/him/his) 16:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Split proposal

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Per the above section, I propose we split the following:

— 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 00:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Trim Illmatic#The Source section down by like 70%. There's no reason it warrants four complete paragraphs plus a block quote. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 02:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Zmbro,   Done— 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 03:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The proposed splits both make sense to me! We could also probably tighten up Illmatic#Songs a bit by shortening or removing some of the longer quotations from the album's lyrics. Specifically, the quotations from "One Love" and "It Ain't Hard to Tell" can probably be axed entirely without losing any meaningful content; I think there's also room to streamline the various quotations from "Represent". ModernDayTrilobite (talkcontribs) 14:37, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree with the split to Impact and Legacy, but I weakly disagree with splitting Themes - it seems like something that should be contained within the article? Especially as it's much shorter than the Impact and Legacy section. Rafplayz001(talk | contribs) 01:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've gone ahead and made the cuts I suggested earlier to the "One Love" and "It Ain't Hard to Tell" quotations in Songs. Also, the proposal to split out the Impact and Legacy section seems uncontroversial thus far, so should we go ahead and put it in place? I'm happy to give it a shot myself within the next few days, but if anyone else wants to take point on the split, please feel free to beat me to the punch. ModernDayTrilobite (talkcontribs) 14:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi all - as an update, I've just finished implementing the split of Impact and legacy of Illmatic. If there are any changes to that article (or to the newly stripped-back version of Illmatic#Impact and legacy here) that you feel are desirable, please feel free to BOLDly make them. ModernDayTrilobite (talkcontribs) 16:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Reply