Talk:Ilyushin Il-96/Archive 1

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US politics prevented further development of this variant. Eh? Could someone elaborate on this? These are Russian planes, after all. Mr. Jones 10:30, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Financing of western avionics (Collins & Honeywell) and engines (Pratt & Whitney), are done by US Govt Eximbank

I removed Having learned a bitter lesson during development of the Il-96M/T, , because there is no mention of what this 'bitter lesson' might actually have been. Dan100 18:44, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

The "unit price" is incorrect - according to Aeroflot's website the figures were only the fees per aircraft of the airline's deal to lease 6 aircraft for 15 years. I have removed them from the information box. Zero76 09:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Conflict

Both this and Tu-204 say that they were the first to introduce western engines. --80.63.213.182 16:17, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Tu-204 and Il-96 both introduced their plan to westernize with western engines at around the same time almost immediately after the fall of Soviet Union, so I guess it would be difficult to say who's first and who's second. The bottomline is that the development of Il-96 with western engine failed due to lack of funds in the certification process. The Tu-204, however, went through the certification process with the western engines and is now selling both western and Russian versions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aviageek (talk • contribs) 7. dec 2006 kl. 19:58

Putin's plane contradiction

Both the Il-96-300 and the Il-96M is credited with being the plane used by Putin:

Il-96-300: It is used by Russian president Vladimir Putin as a VIP plane. Il-96M: This version is also used as President Putin's VIP transport plane.

Could someone remove this conradiction?

--193.6.17.184 08:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Last year (2007), GTK Rossyia received a new Il-96 to the presidential fleet, reg. RA-96018. Airliners.net has a picture of it (so I can prove it exists), you can see at: http://www.airliners.net/search/linkhere.php?id=1252857 So please, keep my edition, because since last year GTK Rossiya has 3 Il-96 in its fleet (RA-96012, 96016 and 96018). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlo Moiana (talk • contribs) 22:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

The longer Il-96M went on to become the Il-96-400 prototype (with PS-90 engines). Now parked with engines removed. The VIP version is the Il-96-300PU and is structurally based on the -300 model. Electrics are on Il-96M levels on this one.

For the regs: RA96012: Il-96-300PU. Has the spinal antenna. RA96016: Il-96-300PU. Spinal antenna. RA96018: Il-96-300 but might have VIP interior. No extra communication equipment visible on the outside. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.73.173.88 (talk) 09:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Contradictory data on speed

Cruising speed is listed as .83 Mach (1037.5 km/h) and maximum speed as .86 Mach (1075 km/h). Since I don't know the correct values, I'm not going to touch them, but these can't possibly be correct. I suspect the Mach numbers are correct and the km/h values mistaken; those km/h values would be very close to Mach 1 and would make this plane the fastest civilian plane currently in service. --Tappel (talk) 09:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I've corrected this by taking kmh data from the Russian Wiki (I hope they're correct). Serge925 (talk) 12:28, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello,

I have the Il-96-300 Pilot’s manual and the FAA certification documents. Ilyushin official data are (for cruise speed): 0.78 to 0.84 Mach or 850 to 870 km/h TAS (459 to 469 KTAS). The maximum speed is 600 km/h IAS (325 KIAS) or Mach 0.84. Ilyushin applied wide safety margins: in trials the aircraft sustained a speed of M 0.88; at M 0.90 had a tail vibration and, diving at M 0.92, the vibration was very strong. The maximum certified altitude is 13.100 m (FL430), in trials reached 14.000 m. The trials were repeated with production aircrafts. Adarech

Contradiction on production dates

The info box records the aircraft as still being in production, but the article states that production has been cancelled. I won't change it as I'm not sure what the actual situation is, but something with access to reliable sources should have a look at it. --Canttaketheskyfromme (talk) 00:08, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

The plane is in production according to Russian aviation .com Planer 12346578955 (talk) 22:58, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

NATO Reporting name

Does anyone know the II-96's NATO Reporting Name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.11.152 (talk) 18:49, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

It has no reporting name. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/il-96.htm " According to some sources, this plane was the first Russian passenger plane not to receive a NATO reporting name. Other sources are of the view that it was regarded as a variant of the Il-86 Camber, and so the Il-96 would also be Camber."24.109.131.161 (talk) 02:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Engine type contradictions

The engine types mentioned in the text are offset compared to the table by one version. Since neither of the entries seems to be supported by a source, does someone know which is correct? — Julian H.^✈(talk) 19:12, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

The plane is in production

According to Russian aviation .com it is in production Planer 12346578955 (talk) 18:21, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

"Airplane"

On the search it says "airplane" shouldn't it be " airliner" ? Planer 12346578955 (talk) 19:11, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Primary users

This needs to be updated.

• Polet Airlines folded in 2014.
• According to the Rossiya web site their fleet consists only of Airbus and Boeing planes, ref. http://www.rossiya-airlines.com/en/about/about_us/fleet/plane_park/

Gentleman wiki (talk) 22:09, 27 December 2016 (UTC) Ok the il-96 are government owned and operated by Rossiya under contract. Gentleman wiki (talk) 05:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Russia Building New ‘Doomsday’ Aircraft

AVweb reports Russia is building a new E-4B equivalent based on the Il-96-400M. Russia Building New ‘Doomsday’ Aircraft GA-RT-22 (talk) 16:44, 28 July 2021 (UTC)