Talk:Imran Khan/Archive 5

Latest comment: 28 days ago by Titan2456 in topic Prime Ministership Article
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WP:RPPI

@ WP:RPPI I requested admins visit and asses need for full protection of the article to form the consensus on the article talk page first. Since well intentioned confirmed users from both side have not understood the point that preferably they form consensus at talk page first before editing the article. Thats leading to situation of edit war. At this stage rather than action on individual users fully protecting the article may benefit consensus forming at the talk page, but still admins may arrive at better judgement after own visit to talk page discussion and article edit history. Bookku (talk) 02:43, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Update - Imran Khan arrested today

173.19.29.115 (talk) 00:48, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 01:02, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

NPOV violations

This article violates NPOV. It reads like a puff piece.

For example, when Khan ignored Putin's war crimes and violations of international order by invading another country, this article describes this as "refusing to submit" to Western pressure. Lol. MBUSHIstory (talk) 11:26, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Merge and rewrite?

I guess there are at least few Imran Khan related WP:POVFORK pages few of them having considerable WP:PUFFERY / Wikipedia:Wikipuffery needs to be addressed in due course.

Some of the article needs revisit and encyclopedic scrutiny for example First 100 days of Imran Khan's prime ministershipand also section Imran Khan#Prime Minister of Pakistan is considerably long where as supposed to be main article Premiership of Imran Khan looks almost like a stub. Bookku (talk) 10:22, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 August 2023

2A02:CE0:3800:977:E9D1:787F:66F5:7BCE (talk) 14:22, 9 August 2023 (UTC)The PDM government after filing more then 150 cases against him disqualified him in a bogus case for the upcoming elections and 5 years in terms.He is now in Attock jail because of the speedy and unjust trail against him
Uh... I don't get it.
Greater Intosh 15:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -Lemonaka‎ 02:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

The cypher/cable

New development: it looks like the content of the cable has now become available. https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/. Someone working on this article may want to follow up. - Jmabel | Talk 18:33, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

I've added a sentence on this now. JArthur1984 (talk) 16:29, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 August 2023

Imran Khan’s picture (the one posted on his info-box)is an old picture. It would be better to update it with a newer one which resembles his current appearance more closely such as the file (‘Imran Khan 2019 crop.jpg‘) Ultraprime12345 (talk) 21:56, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

  Not done: the current picture is not older than the one that you are proposing. M.Bitton (talk) 09:43, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
I understand the point you are trying to make. Perhaps a file which is more recent, such as (Imran Khan in June 2023.jpg)or (Imran Khan - 2023.jpg) would be better to replace, in relevance to the previous argument? Ultraprime12345 (talk) 12:30, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
  Not done for now: Neither of the proposed pictures are as high-quality as the current one, and the current one is not particularly dated (only a few years, which is normal for pictures of world leaders). Elli (talk | contribs) 18:16, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Neutrality

This article heavilly glamourises Khan amd its very hard to find any criticisms of his premiership and subsequent attenpt to return to power. There's nothing in the lead about his pro-Taliban and pro-islamists stances, nothing about his populist rhetoric, but most glaringly the article seeme to suggest he improved Pakistan's economy and corruption issues, which if anything, were exacerbated despite his claims. The article really needs a lot more balance, as you would expect for such a political figure; and yes thhis can be difficult to balance but this isway over the top, not only WP:NPOV but really WP:PUFF. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:35, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2023

I want to add her 1992 cricket world cup medals Mujib10 (talk) 18:34, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

  Not done the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". Leoneix (talk) 06:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2023 (minor change/rewriting the "height" in Infobox)

Hi I want to bring a minor change, in the Infobox the source given is close to 1.88 but somehow breaks and then there's 6'2, so I wanted to rewrite the source just so it's more readable, nicer to look at in some way.

Thus I want to change this :

|heightm = 1.88[1]

To this :

| height = 6 ft 2 in[2]

Thanks.

  Done Thank you! NotAGenious (talk) 19:45, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Tim McGirk (15 April 1995), "Imran's Dangerous New Game", The Independent. 27 August 2018.
  2. ^ "Imran's Dangerous New Game". The Independent. 15 April 1995. It was in the children's ward of Imran Khan's new cancer hospital, the only one in Pakistan, that the woman stopped him. She was tiny beside the six-foot-two cricketer [...]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 January 2024

Former Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan and his wife, Bushra Bibi, have been sentenced to a total of 14 years in prison, with Khan receiving a 10-year sentence on January 30 Tuesday for leaking classified state documents and an additional sentence on January 31 Wednesday related to accusations of receiving illicit state gifts while in office. The court also imposed a fine of approximately 1.5 billion rupees (£4.2m; $5.3m) on the couple. It is currently unclear if the sentences will be served concurrently. Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68150959 EditThemAll (talk) 13:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 16:53, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

"the contents of a [[Lettergate|secret cable]]" (lead section, [1]) is incompatible with MOS:EASTEREGG. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 09:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

 Y Now that "a" has become part of the link ([2]), the issue is either resolved or less severe than it was before. Thanks. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:53, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Imran Khan: A Short investigate the Continuous Whereabouts of Pakistan's Past Top of the state

[3] ArslanGlotar (talk) 12:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

So what? --Mhhossein talk 21:06, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

'Alleged' cipher

By now it seems clear that the cipher is real - it has been published in its entirety by The Intercept (https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/) - and that it does show that the US was expressing, at least, a strong desire for Khan to be ousted because of his foreign policy, again confirmed by the analysis of The Intercept. As the separate article on Lettergate makes clear, even Pakistani officials have admitted the existence of the cipher and much of its content. (Not to mention that it never made sense to sentence someone for leaking a secret if the secret wasn't true.) Thus, the highly cautious and sceptical qualifications of everything pertaining to the cable as 'alleged' are no longer warranted. Even assuming that this is a 'state secret' of Pakistan because of 'national security considerations' (rather absurdly IMO, but never mind), Wikipedia is under no obligation to maintain it. 62.73.69.121 (talk) 11:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Sentence in "Public image" section

'His critics have often called him "Fitna Khan" and "Zinayi Khan"' - what do these words mean? I looked both up, and could find no explanation. It would be useful- on the English Wikipedia- to have some kind of meaning provided for whatever these two names are supposed to represent or indicate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.237.50 (talk) 19:38, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

They are abusive and derogatory words dear RedHood9112 (talk) 14:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 February 2024

Add a sentence.. RedHood9112 (talk) 14:54, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 17:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Imran Khan's dressing

When talking about Imran Khan's Dressing, Everyone imagines the shalwar kameez-waistcoat combination with a Peshwari chapal. Talking about his Peshwari chapal need to understand that they were all custom made chapals from high-end designers, French fashion designer Christian Louboutin's Paul Smith was in love with these Peshwari chapals that made him re-introduced them to the world and named them "Imran sandals". After becoming prime minister, This was his usual dressing almost everyday. Addition to this he used to wear black sunglasses as part of his dressing. MuhammadNeroz (talk) 11:53, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Protected: edit request

To correct the malapropism in the last paragraph under Political ideology / Foreign relations: correct "lightening rod" to "lightning rod" qwaal (talk) 16:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Done, thanks! Zanahary (talk) 22:06, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 February 2024

Just wanted to add a sentence. RedHood9112 (talk) 14:58, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 17:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 March 2024

Change ODI cap number from “115” to “12” in his cricket career stats. 58.65.144.147 (talk) 08:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

“175”* to “12” 58.65.144.147 (talk) 11:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 19:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Islamic-Nationalist

On Modi's page, Wikipedia describes him as a Hindu Nationalist. Why doesn't Wikipedia allow Imran Khan to be described as Islamic Nationalist? (He preaches about Islam in his speeches, starts speeches with "bismillah rahman e rahim", an Islamic prayer). Why this double-standard from the "mods" or whoever it is who controls Wikipedia? 75.76.166.65 (talk) 18:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 April 2024

In his medal record you should also add Nehru Cup which Pakistan won under Imran khans captaincy. All 6 test playing teams participated in Nehru cup cricket in 1989. The final was played between Pakistan and West Indies which Pakistan won under Imran khan’s captaincy. 142.126.224.31 (talk) 04:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Shadow311 (talk) 15:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 April 2024 (2)

I request you to change the text 'In his virtual address at the 76th Session of the United Nations General Assembly on 24 September 2021, Khan remarked that many Pakistani Pashtuns "had strong sympathies with the Afghan Taliban, not because of their religious ideology, but because of Pashtun nationalism."' to 'In his virtual address at the 76th Session of the United Nations General Assembly on 24 September 2021, Khan remarked "and then along along the tribal belt bordering Afghanistan [FATA] – the Pakistan’s semi-autonomous tribal belt they had strong sympathies with the Afghan Taliban, not because of their religious ideology, but because of Pashtun nationalism.' According to the source itself [[4]] he was talking about the people of fata not about all pashtuns. Knightknight12345 (talk) 19:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

  Done Thank you! WikiEnthusiast1001 (talk) 04:31, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 April 2024 (3)

{{edit extended-prot--103.251.255.97 (talk)ected|Imran Khan|answered=no}}

103.251.255.97 (talk) 23:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

|office2 = 36th Interior Minister of Pakistan |term_start2 = 31 August 2018 |term_end2 = 18 April 2019 |deputy2 = Shehryar Afridi as state Minister

Prime Ministership Article

@SheriffIsInTown I was thinking of splitting the Prime Minister section into the Prime Ministership of Imran Khan article which is a redirect. Shehbaz Sharif already has a premiership article with the same done, I also feel that the PM section is lengthy and could use its own article. Do you oppose this and are you okay with me making this major change? Titan2456 (talk) 20:05, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I actually support that. My goal when creating the article was to eventually update it, but due to personal commitments, I couldn't. As a result, people kept adding prime ministership content to the BLP, making that section longer than the article itself, and eventually, it was turned into a redirect. I had planned to split it into a separate article one day. If you can do that, please go ahead. I will support it. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 20:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
It would make sense to do that. Having one extremely long section unbalances the article. A summary here with link to main would be an improvement. PearlyGigs (talk) 03:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
@PearlyGigs@SheriffIsInTown I'm not too good at summarizing, but I hope this is good for the summary in this article:
Following a populist campaign against corruption in the 2018 elections, Imran Khan became the 22nd Prime Minister of Pakistan on 17 August 2018 after his Oath of office ceremony. Upon taking office, he laid out a 100-day plan to rapidly reform the country in a short time span. He made significant changes in the country's bureaucracy and military leadership, including appointing Sohail Mahmood as Foreign Secretary and Lieutenant General Asim Munir as Director-General of Inter-Services Intelligence. Khan's cabinet included many ministers from the Musharraf era and former members of the Pakistan People's Party. His government undertook major cabinet reshuffles and faced economic challenges, resulting in seeking an IMF bailout, as well as implementing austerity measures. By 2020, Pakistan's balance of payments improved, fiscal deficit narrowed, and tax collection reached record highs.
Khan's foreign policy followed primarily a "Pakistan first" ideology, in which he sought to establish Pakistan as a respected player on the international stage. He emphasized Islamic unity through his efforts against Islamophobia and leadership in the OIC. Him and his close foreign minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi established good relations with Saudi Arabia, though he stated that he sought to mediate between Iran and Saudi Arabia amidst their proxy-conflict. Khan maintained a strong stance on the Kashmir issue, refusing talks with India until autonomy was restored in Indian-held Kashmir. Khan also criticized the American drone campaign in Pakistan, as well as declared that the Taliban-led government in Afghanistan should be recognized and not isolated.
Domestically, Khan's government launched an anti-corruption campaign, improved security, and banned certain extremist groups. In social policy, his administration restored minority religious sites, reformed education and healthcare, and expanded large welfare programs most prominently the Sehaat Sahulat Program. His government passed the Zainab Alert Bill as an attempt to increase Women's rights in Pakistan. His environmental initiatives, primarily the Plant for Pakistan increased renewable energy and attempted to reforest Pakistan at a large scale.
Khan faced criticism for certain comments and policies, though he was praised for handling the COVID-19 pandemic, rolling out a large welfare program, and achieving a V-shaped economic recovery. He was removed from office in March 2022, amidst a motion of no-confidence against his government where many of his coalition partners left his government resulting in his ousting, being the first prime minister of Pakistan successfully overthrown by a no-confidence motion. Despite his ousting at the three and a half year mark, his prime ministership saw large-scale reforms in many sectors, espousing a welfarist domestic policy, a foreign policy active in many global issues and an anti-corruption political policy. Titan2456 (talk) 23:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Titan2456, and thanks for the ping. As a summary, this fits the bill for me. It's concise and yet it covers a wide scope. Well done. PearlyGigs (talk) 06:53, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
The summary is copacetic. 🤙🏽 Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 16:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Done! Titan2456 (talk) 17:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC)