Talk:Inchicore

Picture?

Does anyone have a picture of the Inchicore area? Maybe one of the Liffey or the shopping districts that we can use here? Or perhaps some fair-use images of St. Pat's or Guinness RFC? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.7.85 (talk) 23:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Assessment

With better referencing, and a little more on the history maybe, this article can make C. Picture(s) not essential but would help further. SeoR (talk) 13:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

And it's still Start class 11 years later, a pity, as there is plenty more to Inchicore. SeoR (talk) 10:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

But on review, while still needing much work, this is now C class, so I will update the rating. SeoR (talk) 10:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Community and leisure

Recent edits have improved the article, and most pruned text will not be missed. I am going to replace some deprecated bot cruft with one chunk of items, which *might*, in running text (and not bulleted lists), be partly reused, if also properly referenced. I am familiar with three of these groups, and others I checked online.

Kilmainham and Inchicore Heritage Group, set up in 2004. Conradh na Gaeilge Inse Chor. Inchicore Environmental Group, a volunteer group organizing canal and village cleanups. Common Ground, an arts organisation engaged in urban community regeneration. Inchicore Ledwidge Society dedicated to preserving the memory and poetic legacy of the poet Francis Ledwidge. Inchicore Sports & Social Club, located in the CIE hall. Spotlight Theatre Group, Inchicór Gospel Choir, Croonerista Social Club, Inchicore Chess Club, Canal Communities Regional Youth Service, and a youth group - Foróige's KRIB GYDP. SeoR (talk) 10:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi. If some of those were to be restored, then that's cool with me. My removal of the full "directory of links to mainly Facebook pages" was possibly a bit aggressive. In terms of where to put them, perhaps "sports" could be expanded to "sports and community groups". And "community groups" made a sub-section of that. In terms of how to frame them, the text should be prose. Not a list. And there ideally wouldn't be spammy inline links. In terms of inclusion criteria, I'd imagine any included groups should at least have something that can be said about them ("a heritage group setup in 2004"). Rather than just a flat mention. And only then if that text can supported by a reliable source. IE: Not a Facebook group. Obvs :) Guliolopez (talk) 11:21, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Guliolopez, 100% agreed, per above, and my comments on a passing c/e in November - this section, with those terrible inline ELs, and the People part, were in sore need of work; I've just been a little RL-loaded the last couple of months. I think a Sport and Community heading, with the respective two sub-heads, would be a good approach. It is sometimes hard to back up local initiatives, but that's the way it is - no coverage, no mention (but here, while Dublin lacks the rich local paper coverage of some other counties, the Northside and Southside People, thankfully back in publication, can be a starting point). And now that libraries are back open too, picking up some decent local history book would enable any editor to do a lot with an article like this. For now, preserved here for anyone to have a go... SeoR (talk) 14:28, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Etymology

The lede has Inse Chór, the History section – Inse Chaoire, both explained as "sheep island". Maybe it's an archaic or dialectal form, but if I get things right, in contemporary Irish "sheep island" would be Inse (or Inis) Caorach. And there is one on the other side of the island. (Inse Caoire could be "Island of a berry", but this seems fanciful. One way or another, no lenition in both cases). 37.47.225.102 (talk) 13:05, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi. I have removed the "sheep island" stuff from the lead. As it was uncited. The Irish Placenames Commission, as per the logainm.ie entry for Inchicore, does not support this derivation. It offers several alternatives (both in the main text of the entry and the scanned archival records which support the entry), but conspicuously doesn't make a determination either way. So, as per your note, I'm not sure why we are more sure of ourselves, about the placename/derivation, than the body with specific responsibility for that stuff. I've retained the "some sources suggest" stuff in the body. As there are at least one or two sources which seem to support the claim. How authoritative they might be is a matter for debate. Guliolopez (talk) 19:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_St_John

Peter Mooney, (stage name Pete St John) who wrote the famous The Fields of Athenry song, was from Inchicore, but is omitted from the Wikipedia list of Artists from Inchicore. Pete St John 76.67.111.182 (talk) 18:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)