Talk:Independence Hall

Images

I uploaded a nice images....Image:Independencehall.jpe ...but i cannot get it to fit right. can someone take a stab? Kingturtle 05:50, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Charles Wilson Peale's Museum

The article could use some information on the history of the building during the 19th C. While primarily used as a historic monument, the upper floor was Charles Wilson Peale's Museum, a famed collection of curiosities, stuffed birds and animals, including a Mastodon skeleton.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.163.114 (talk • contribs) 10:20, March 27, 2007

'State' House in 1729?

I assume this is an error, but I'm not sure what a provincial legislative chamber would have been called in Colonial America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.3.44.127 (talk) 17:45, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

• The term "state" is not an American creation, nor is its application limited to organizational divisions within the United States of America post July 4, 1776. A "State House" is merely a capitol. The US Capitol could legitimately be called a State House. It's just not, by custom. And by custom, some US states call their capitols their "State House" and others use a different term. If a more generic term is preferred here, "legislative hall" would probably do nicely. But the more important question to ask is whether there's a reliable source to support the premise of the assertion, not whether the specific terminology here is particularly artful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:147:C380:A180:7DE5:F086:9A02:4F6D (talk) 17:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Date of the name Independence Hall

Does anyone have any evidence on when the name Independence Hall began to be used? It would be a useful bit of perspective. deisenbe (talk) 17:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

I'm guessing @BoringHistoryGuy: would have an idea. Off the top of my head, during the Revolution (and before) it was known as the State House, so when the state capital was moved (1820s??) might have been a good time to change the name. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:08, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Harrisburg,_Pennsylvania#Founding gives October 1812 as the date of the capital moving there. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:12, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, folks. The name is attributed to the Marquis de La Fayette on his 1824-25 tour of the United States. When he visited the (former) Pennsylvania Statehouse, he reportedly called the Assembly Room the "Hall of Independence" (or its equivalent in French), and the name eventually became attached to the entire building.[1] == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:20, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

When was it officially renamed Independence Hall?

1948, when the Park was created? I think it would be useful to know that. There is no “Independence Hall”, nor “Pennsylvania State House”, not under those names, on the National Register of Historic Places (see https://www.nps.gov/nr/research/data_downloads/Multiple_Links_2015.xlsx and https://www.nps.gov/nr/research/data_downloads/national-register-listed-properties-20171205.xlsx) deisenbe (talk) 13:00, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

The NY Times called it Independence Hall in a 1915 article (https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1915/06/18/104647618.html) Independence Square was named in 1828 (ref above after Toqueville). deisenbe (talk) 20:18, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

The Seybert clock or Centennial Clock inside indepndance hall.

a few years ago i proposed making big ben and the Cenntennial clock ultra accurate.

since that time all information about the independance hall tower clock appears to be missing.

its a wonderfull double three leg escapement like big ben. but it appears to have gone missing from history. I considered adding the adjustments to make the centennial clock ultra accurate. but it has virtually gone missing from the web.

can wiki start a page to detail its history and chronicale its updates and repairs?

i know clocks are about a dollar a peice now.. but the precision mechanicalmclocks are still worth millions.. see exoencive watches. the tower clocks are only so accurate unless they are correctly adjusted. trinity college has done some work on its clock which is running above average.

it remains a very rare but interesting science, how to make mechanical clocks super accurate.

and i think we should charish the centennial clock which was donated.

During the Centennial restoration project, a large bell (weighing 13,000 pounds) and a new clock were given to the City by Henry Seybert for the steeple of Independence Hall. This clock and bell are still in use.

http://www.ushistory.org/independencehall/history/indhall7.htm

btw the u.s. didnt pay him for 6 years..

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.197.63.153 (talk) 16:07, 7 November 2019 (UTC) 

Infobox image

I am beginning a section here to discuss the infobox image. I am of the opinion that a wider image that captures a facade of the building in its entirety (like option 2) is more appropriate than a close up (particularly a close up with perspective distortion). @Randy Kryn: does not seem to share this opinion, ostensibly preferring option 1. Any thoughts? Filetime (talk) 04:39, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Option 1

Option 2

Who owns it?

It is not often discussed, but my understanding is that it is not owned by the United States but rather by the state of Pennsylvania under the city of Philadelphia. The various routes of its Pedegree might make an interesting footnote. Perhaps someone can also answer the question of whether the clock is donated or on lease. Since there has been some discussion that modern clocks can be made more accurate. Such opportunities are so Bureaucratically complex that no one has ever attempted to propose it. -- Unsigned comment

The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania sold Independence Hall to the City of Philadelphia in 1818: https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/historyculture/places-independencehall-assemblyroom.htm#. Text on the sale appears in the section "Transition to Shrine" Allreet (talk) 00:47, 25 October 2022 (UTC)