Talk:Indigenous peoples of Florida

Latest comment: 2 days ago by Donald Albury in topic Removal of Osochi

Propose Rename

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Propose renaming to List of indigenous peoples of Florida Duff (talk) 10:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Revamping citations

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I intend to clean up the citations, properly incorporate external links to Google books, and find replacements for dead links and links to non-reliable sources (at least some of which I'm responsible for). I also propose to convert the citations to WP:SFN, if no one objects in the next few days. - Donald Albury 00:47, 22 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

No objections after three years, I will proceed to do this. - Donald Albury 02:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Removal of Osochi

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I have removed an item about Osochi that I found very dubious: Osochi - Swanton suggests this was a Timucuan group, connecting the name to Uzachili, chief of Yustaga when de Soto passed through that chiefdom, and that the town migrated northward after the Timucua Rebellion of 1656, settling along the Flint River, and associating with the Hitchiti, especially after being relocated to Arkansas and the Indian Territory.(Swanton

Swanton's proposal (1922 p. 169) that the Osochi were originally a Timucua people was based on three points: (1) the resemblance between Osochi and Uzachile, the name of the chief of what became known as Yustaga when de Soto passed through in 1539; (2) the fact that residents of mission villages in Yustaga and Northern Utina "fled to the woods" after the Timucua revolt of 1656; and (3) a report of Timucua being the vicinity of the Chattahoochee and Flint Rivers. Hann (2006) lists Osuchi as a Hitchiti-speaking town in Apalachicola Province (Swanton's "Lower Creek"), but does not mention any possible Timucua connections, even though he does discuss the possibility that a couple of the other Hitchiti-speaking towns had moved into Apalachicola Province after the passage of de Soto's expedition. I will also note that I have not found any mention of a Timucua people becoming the Osochi/Osuchi aside from Swanton.

I consider Swanton's proposed connection of Osochi to a Timucua origin to be unproven and unlikely, and therefore inappropriate for inclusion in this article. Donald Albury 01:17, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply