Talk:Indigenous peoples of Siberia
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editMost of this material was cut from the another article Shamanistic cultures in Siberia (now "Shamanism in Siberia") and placed here, where the material was more appropriate. Please see the other article for earlier edit history. Peter G Werner 21:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
not whole siberia
editThis article is only about East Siberia, i.e., beyond Ural. It misses West Siberia (e.g, Komi). 04:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Isn't the comparison here a bit propagandistic
edit"In just the American state of Arizona, the Native American population outnumbers the total northern Siberian native population of 180,000.[16]" With the state of Arizona being a vastly more inhabitable and confortable place, than "Northern Siberia", not to mention connected to modern infrastructure. It's comparing apples to oranges. MickStep (talk) 13:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
This article contains a large amount of copied-and-pasted text
editSee the discussion here for details about this issue. (talk) 18:57, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
History?
editThe history section starts with the subjugation of the Siberian peoples. Surely their history deserves more than that? The article sounds like they spontaneously appeared in 1714 and were immediately persecuted. --Eddylyons (talk) 14:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes, this is in medias res, and begins with Russian interactions with indigenous people. Just for that topic need at least two hundred more years. Russian conquest of Siberia From History of Siberia can be found a lot more archeology and historical sources. Nlight2 (talk) 09:47, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- The section is trash where anti-Russian editors over-emphasizes Russian oppression and are silent about, for example, Chukchi plunder of neighboring peoples (Koryaks and alike). Obviously, users who produce and edit such things as
“ | In 1918-1921 there was a violent revolutionary upheaval in Siberia leading to the Russian conquest of Siberia as Russian Cossacks under Captain Grigori Semionov… | ” |
- know nothing of relevant history. It is merely propaganda leaflets stating that Russians are emperors of evil. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:32, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- something you'll laugh at - conquest of Siberia and taiga. Only in the US there have been and still are "reservation".
Why no mention of Eskimo-Aleut speaking groups?
editSiberian Yupik and Aleut peoples both live within the Russian Far East in Chukotka and Kamchatka. They don't fit into any of the categories mentioned in the "overview" section or into any of the groups about which there is a paragraph. They should presumably also be mentioned in "Relationship to Indigenous peoples of the Americas" as the Siberian group with the closest link to American groups. Is there any reason they are not included? Strangely though "Eskimo-Aleut" is included in the list of languages in the information bar and there is some citations about them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.14.71 (talk) 14:17, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
LTA content
editI undid content that was added[1] and re-added[2] by an LTA. As recently noted by Austronesier,[3] this content is mostly trash and can't be verified in the sources. This section will be expanded with inline citations later. - Hunan201p (talk) 16:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)