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Electracy

Looking at Electracy, there are many common themes. I do find it hard to even say electracy and I have never heard the term before. Searching for information on this I would look for information literacy and/or media literacy. 142.22.54.34 (talk) 19:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

There is much in the concept of electracy that is significant and beyond the categories of "information" or "media" literacy. The whole purpose is to have a term that does not include "literacy" (i.e. "littera" -- letter) as a way of defining the shift from literacy to the emergent digital era. As the inventor of the term Greg Ulmer writes, "The nice thing about having such a term is not only the efficiency, but the categorical effect it produces. For one thing, it helps us see the difference between "media literacy" (whose goal is to protect from or defend against electracy by means of forms and practices specific to the previous apparatus; the equivalent for an oral person calling literacy "alphabetic orality"). It also is generative in that, knowing by analogy with literacy that digital technological shift is just one part of an apparatus, we may notice that the other parts of the apparatus shift are also well under way -- for example that a new institution has emerged within which is being invented the set of practices that will be to electracy what schooling and all that goes with it are to literacy. This institution is Entertainment" (see Toward Electracy: A Conversation with Greg Ulmer). I suggest adding a paragraph to this entry with a link to the new term "electracy" as a way of resolving the issue. rsmyth 11:04, 27 April 2008 (EST)

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Double Entry/

The entry to the section titled In the Curriculum is repeated in its subsection titled Canada in the second paragraph. It should either be removed from the subsection titled Canada or be rewritten and edited into something new that is still integrating what was previously being said. I feel that the subsections Asia and UK under the section In the curriculum are underrepresented and the Arab World subsection might be a little overrepresented; although it did bring up several important and interesting facts.Crystalcervantez (talk) 05:23, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Merge from information literacy, information literacies, and media literacy

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To keep information literacy and media literacy separate on the grounds that they are sufficiently distinct, but to merge the two broad-concepts articles (Information and media literacy and Information and media literacy) into one. Klbrain (talk) 09:02, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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Sigh. We have four articles with pretty much identical scope, as seen by the names. Three of them have been written as independent student projects. While to some degree this is simply a result of the mess in academia itself (different scholars prefer different terms, some consider them synonymous, a few argue there is some minor distinction), I think we should merge all those articles together, and if any scholars do argue they are not the same, we can provide their viewpoints. But for most scholars, and certainly, most readers, the distinction is IMHO pretty much non-existent. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

I can see how Information literacy and information literacies would be combined. Would you consider media literacy as a heading in that combined article?Amethystloucks (talk) 00:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

@Amethystloucks, @Piotrus, It seems like a very good and important need to merge these overlying terms. Information literacy, information literacies and information and media literacy should be combined. Media literacy is similar, but different. However, it is unclear if it is different enough to allow for a separate article. For an interesting read, see "Untangling media literacy, information literacy, and digital literacy: A systematic meta-review of core concepts in media education." They also write that "There is a strong consensus on the need to organize the multiplicity of literacy concepts." p. 172. SigTif (talk) 06:00, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

@Amethystloucks Why not keep the current name? Btw, if you want someone to notice your reply on a talk page, WP:ECHO is your friend. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:26, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

@Amethystloucks, @Piotrus, I do not think that these articles should be merged. Media literacy has become its own unique type of literacy in the age of social media. Even if the articles are similar several initiatives are emerging on media literacy to counter the spread of disinformation and misinformation on social media. For example, The European Union writes "media literacy has never been as important as it is today. It enables citizens of all ages to navigate the modern news environment and take informed decisions." See "Media literacy in the European Union." Therefore, I think the articles should remain independent --MexFin (talk) 13:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@MexFin We can find plenty of sources using this term, but they are synonyms. Note that the source you cite doesn't say "information and media literacy", just "media literacy". Did they source you find explain why "media literacy" is not the same as "information and media literacy"? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:39, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

@Piotrus You are right in that this particular article is badly written, I agree. However, my point is that media literacy (without the information part) is its own thing. I also agree that it did not used to be. In the last decade or so, media literacy has gained prominence due to the growth of conspiracy theories, fake news, and disinformation. I agree that the current version of the article does not mention this distinction, and it is focused on general literacy. What I would suggest is to remove the redundancies and regarding the other types of literacy and trim this article specifically about media literacy. The exact difference between the terms is that media literacy aims to create critical thinking in media consumption to distinguish information from disinformation, and to use social media with autonomy. MexFin (talk) 06:51, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

@MexFin If we were to "trim this article specifically about media literacy", if this article means Information and media literacy, how would that not create a fork of media literacy? Aren't you yourself making the case of merging Information and media literacy with media literacy here? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:16, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

@Piotrus You are entirely right. I think that we have been discussing parallel issues. In information literacy, and information literacies, you can see the proposals for merging all of them (4) into one. It reads: "It has been suggested that this article be merged with Information literacies, Information and media literacy and Media literacy." The proposal is to merge the four of them. My point is that whereas I agree that information literacy + information literacies + Information and media literacy should be merged, media literacy is not the same and should remain separate. MexFin (talk) 10:53, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

I don't have an issue one way or another, as long as whatever is done makes sense as an article as well as to everyone involved. Having never combined articles myself, though, I think someone else should be the one to combine them. Amethystloucks (talk) 00:55, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

@MexFin Thank you for clarifying. Would you happen to have any source that clearly distinguishes these terms? It would help a lot to be able to cite reliable scholar X who explains the difference between "media literacy" and "information and media literacy". PS. On a sidenote, I just created a redirect from Media and information literacy to Information and media literacy, and it seems that term (mail) is 4:1 more popular (than iaml) in GScholar. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:30, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

There are a couple of well cited articles on media literacy as an independent field that gains traction due to social media. Please see (here) and (definitions here). I do not have time now, but I will summarize the definitions in the intro of media literacy. MexFin (talk) 08:30, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Oppose the merger of Information literacy and Media literacy. They have different origins, histories, academic communities, and focuses. Libcub (talk) 01:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I think it would be a serious disservice to not have an independent Media Literacy article. I completely oppose this merger. ToxicSmurf (talk) 10:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

I agree. Information literacy as CILIP say is "the ability to think critically and make balanced judgements about any information we find and use." IL covers 'any' information, it's a broad view of how we deal with information, how we critically assess it. Media literacy can be informed by IL (or is built around the same terminology and theories) but it is specifically related to the media. For example, an IL skills lesson will look at how you're finding/assessing information in a broad sense and that might include assessing sources found via the media, but it's not necessarily the main focus. Media literacy covers misinformation and disinformation (borrowing from the broader topic of IL), but it also covers things like personal data and privacy, the online environment (how to participate etc). It's worth taking a look at MILA and the UK GOV's Online Media Literacy Strategy. It might make sense to have a 'media and digital literacy' article, so merging those 2 ideas together, but not information and media literacy. There are lots of literacies, they may be related or interconnected, but doesn't mean they're the same. Algorithmic literacy is one that's relevant to the increased use of AI chatbots, and how we assess the reliability of their output, but this should have a broad page of its own and then is just mentioned within IL and ML for instance? I understand the desire to merge things that seem similar, but in this particular situation it would be an oversimplification of a complex topic. Nsemps (talk) 11:46, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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Well then, dear student(s), how about carrying out the merge discussed above? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:24, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

@Piotrus, As I mentioned above, I do not think that these articles should be merged. Media literacy has become essential to fight disinformation in the age of social media. For example, The European Union writes "media literacy has never been as important as it is today. It enables citizens of all ages to navigate the modern news environment and take informed decisions." See "Media literacy in the European Union." Therefore, I think the articles should remain independent --MexFin (talk) 13:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MexFin (talk • contribs)

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Please merge -- this wikipedia entry is too weak to stand on its own. Reneehobbs (talk) 19:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)