Talk:Inigo Jones
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editThe article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- KenWalker | Talk 07:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The name
editHow many men by the name of INIGO JONES are there?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.252.224.14 (talk) at 17:56, 10 December 2004
- Not a very usual combination: Spanish-Welsh. --Wetman 10:00, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Stonehenge
editWell, what were his conclusions? --Tothebarricades 22:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Charlton House, London
edit"In between these periods he was thought to have been heavily involved in working alongside architect, John Thorpe, to design Charlton House in South-East London. This is also indicated by the fact that there is a road in his name in the town near the house." In fact, even the attribution of the design to John Thorpe is doubtful: responsible attributions to Thorpe are made on the basis of plans in his book of designs at Sir John Soane's Museum, London, or in connection with Thorpe's work at the royal works. There is no documented connection between Jones and Thorpe whatsoever. This text needs to be an attributed quote from someone before it can be inserted as a sound assertion. --Wetman 18:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Freemason
editPreston has Indigo [sic] Jones as Grand Master - fact or fiction ?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.167.10.119 (talk) 00:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC).
Copyright violation
editHaving edited this article on several occasions since 2003, I have seen how the article has progressively been expanded and improved over time. IMHO the text on the Soane Museum page is a copy of text from Wikipedia, not vice versa. Paul W (talk) 14:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree with Paul. This diff] shows the evolution of part of the wording of the article, which is eventually found on the Soane site. PS - can anyone actually find any informtion regarding copyright on the Soanne site - we should write to them and complain. --Joopercoopers (talk) 15:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Checking this, I tend to agree. Ori Redler (talk) 22:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Merely "tending" to agree sounds as if wisps of nebulous doubt remain. Perhaps we may have a clearer closing statement. It's often recommended to check development of text at an article's Page History first before applying a Copyright Violation banner and actually removing the page's content. Those actions are disruptive for readers of Wikipedia, and send editors scurrying about, which, though entertaining, might even be thought of as discourteous. --Wetman (talk) 05:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Inigo Jones's First Name
editAs Inigo Jones's family was Catholic, and both father and son bore the name Inigo, perhaps they were named in honor of St. Ignatius Loyola (born Inigo Onaz Lopez) who died in 1556. The Jesuits were a presence in England so would be a known factor to Catholics there.
This is simply a supposition. It might be something for someone to research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayohem (talk • contribs) 22:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- See dispute re religion below, Quis separabit? 00:06, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
From the trivia department
edit"The name 'In-I-Go Jones' […] had been given to a boy named Jones, who, in the early years of Queen Victoria's reign, had managed, unperceived by guards and servants, to make his way several times into the private apartments of Buckingham Palace, where he was found more than once found concealed under a sofa." [1]
If we find a more direct source about this boy this might be material for a nice article. ("For the boy who kept walking into Queen Victoria's palace, see In-I-Go Jones.") Otherwise he should perhaps be mentioned here. --Hans Adler (talk) 17:51, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Here is one:
- In March, 1841, a young lad, named Jones, caused some alarm to the inmates of the palace by making his way into the Queen's private apartments. Unlike the poor demented youth who in more recent times levelled an empty worn-out pistol to Her Majesty as she was leaving her carriage to enter the palace, the only object of "the boy Jones," as he was called, appears to have been notoriety, and this gratification certainly he obtained. Mr. Raikes, in commenting on this incident in his "Journal," says—"A little scamp of an apothecary's errand-boy, named Jones, has the unaccountable mania of sneaking privately into Buckingham Palace, where he is found secreted at night under a sofa, or some other hiding-place close to the Queen's bed-chamber. No one can divine his object, but twice he has been detected and conveyed to the police-office, and put into confinement for a time. The other day he was detected in a third attempt, with apparently as little object. Lady Sandwich wittily wrote that he must undoubtedly be a descendant of In-I-go Jones, the architect." Walford (1878), Old and New London (Vol. 4)
And another one:
- The recent successful invasion of Buckingham Palace by a midnight intruder brings to mind similar incidents in March, 1841, which had for hero The Boy Jones, who succeeded in reaching the private apartments of Queen Victoria no less than three times. Probably the Palace was less securely guarded in those days. Raikes, in his Journal, relates:
- A little scamp of an apothecary's errand boy, named Jones, has the unaccountable mania of sneaking privately into Buckingham Palace, where he is found secreted at night under a sofa, or some other hiding-place, close to the Queen's bed-chamber. No one can divine his object, but twice he has been detected and conveyed to the police-office, and put into confinement for a time. The other day he was detected in a third attempt, with apparently as little object. Lady Sandwich wittily wrote that he must be a descendant of In-I-Go Jones, the architect.
- After his third arrest The Boy James was detained, and Charles Dickens interested himself in the enterprising youth's future. He wrote this unpublished letter to Francis Smedley […], who, as High Bailiff of Westminster, presumably had the disposal of the youthful explorer in High Latitudes:—
- […]
- Eventually Jones was sent to sea. Punch, then newly born, made great fun of the whole affair. […]
- Ellis (2007), Mainly Victorian
Looks like material for another article, after all. --Hans Adler (talk) 18:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC) The material from Punch is available [here]. --Hans Adler (talk) 18:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Recently the file File:Inigo Jones by Sir Anthony Van Dyck.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 23:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Catholic??; I dunno
editAccording to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography online:
"The origin of the unusual forename shared by father and son remains a puzzle. It is not known to be Welsh, nor can it have been of direct Spanish origin, for the father, in spite of the assertion of the Dictionary of National Biography, seems not to have been a Catholic but to have conformed to the established church."
1) He was baptized at a church which would have been Anglican (St. Bartholomew the Less) when he was "received" into the church.
2) There is no evidence, even in the Catholic Dictionary, which is reflinked to the article, of any Catholic devotionalism, activities, etc. on either his or his parents' part. Jones appeares to have been less Catholic than even John Donne, for goodness' sake.
Categories and article text updated accordingly.
Respectfully submitted, Quis separabit? 00:06, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
(or Íñigo)
editI removed the Spanish/Basque version of his forename from the lead sentence (inserted anonymously on 20 March 2011). He had no known connection with the region and no one in fact writes his name that way. Andrew Dalby 14:23, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
(of Welsh ancestry)
editIs this detail of national pathos really necessary ?Pamour (talk) 11:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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Missing from Later Career?
editThe Earl of Essex's article mentions that Inigo Jones designed part of the temporary monument erected for him at the time of his death (1646), if I am reading it correctly. I'm afraid I don't have time to look into this at present, but someone else might? Brianyoumans (talk) 05:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)