Talk:Innsmouth

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I recommend leaving this article at Innsmouth (as opposed to Innsmouth, Massachusetts) to prevent confusion which might result from a reader believing this to be a real city. -- Netoholic @ 18:18, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Map of Innsmouth

It's generally believed that "Shadow over Innsmouth" is in the public domain, but even if it weren't, the map from Cthulhu Mythos: A Guide would likely qualify as fair use--it's a map created by the website's owner based on details provided in the story. The "Tourist's Guide" is mainly a discussion of how the map was created, which is why I originally bundled them together as one link. Nareek 17:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

That map lists streets and places rather well but is a rather poor land map. At any rate, there is a better map which follows the land layout better, linked at [1]. This map matches a sea chart map of Innsmouth found in the Call of Cthulhu video game(for all I know the game developers used this very map as reference). This is a very large map. I'm gonna add it in the external links section for reference.

Clearly, there was a map posted here at one time, and someone has deleted it. I suggest we look in the past files to find it again. We really need a map of Innsmouth on this entry. I don't think we should use a video game map however, because there is a great deal of commercialism involving Lovecraft which really takes away from the literature. I would like to see a professional map made by an authority on Lovecraft. In seems there was a handmade map, that was deleted to add the video game map, and that was deleted. Please keep video game references away. There were no video games in Lovecraft's time. There are separate sections about the video games that promote them and, in my opinion, do not have that much to do with the Lovecraft Stories. Apriv40dj (talk) 12:20, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

The website link that appears when I edit this page does not exist anymore, but I did not alter the users comments above me, at least no intentionally. I don't know how to fix it if it was altered. The comment is unsigned. It should be possible to find the original map in the history of the article and restore it. Otherwise we need a map of Innsmouth, that we can find elsewhere and maybe someone shall donate a map? Apriv40dj (talk) 12:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

I am still trying to fix bad html and font problems in this entry which get worse with each save. I apologize. Apriv40dj (talk) 12:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect claim

This line is incorrect.

"Im boca" is Spanish for "in the mouth" and is apparently a reference to the Lovecraftian John Carpenter film "In the Mouth of Madness" (1995).

Imboca is a direct play on the name Innsmouth, and is not based on "In the Mouth of Madness" which also clearly is a play on Innsmouth.

Listen to the commentary track of "Dagon" and Stuart Gordon explicitly says this. Garbagemania (talk) 01:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Innsmouth at sunset.jpg Nominated for Deletion

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I agree it should be deleted. It says it is from a game. What we need is a map instead.Apriv40dj (talk) 12:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Introduction to "Other Appearances" section

Before the listing of other appearances is the sentence "All subsequent references to or usages of Innsmouth and its fictional surroundings appear to be found in postmodern adolescent popular culture." This doesn't really seem to be accurate to all/most of the items listed, and it also seems like an unnecessary summary to have before the reference list, and also like maybe it's attempting to mock the subject for some reason. Just thought I'd bring it up rather than deleting it outright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CheeseRulesAll (talk • contribs) 13:54, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Esoteric Order of Dagon: the third oath

In Innsmouth#Esoteric Order of Dagon, the third oath is described as "an oath to marry a Deep One and bear or sire its child." Is the wording "...marry....child" stated thus in the text (to which I lack access)? I'll refrain from further comment or any editing till this is clarified. Thank you. -- 17:21, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

I am not aware of any source for the specifics of the three oaths. In the story, Zadok does not state what they entail, only that he took the first and second, but refused to take the third. (Having said that, the supposition about the third oath does seem reasonable.) I think either a source should be cited, or the sentence should be reworded. Saegeas (talk) 23:31, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Merge to Lovecraft Country

I have concerns that this fictional location does not pass WP:NFICTION. Recent discussion at Talk:The_Dunwich_Horror#Merge_from_Dunwich_(Lovecraft) showed a consensus for merging the article on the Dunwich (Lovecraft) (village) there, and I think this is another good candidate to merge and redirect in the same vein. Thoughts? @Susmuffin and Toughpigs: --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:50, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

• Support Innsmouth is not independently notable. The accessible sources focus on the wider region. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 10:16, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

• I'm not sure. More is known about Innsmouth than about all the rest of Lovecraft Country combined, including Arkham. Dunwich is a poor comparison as almost nothing is known about it as a fictional place. The present article could easily grow to twice its current size, with relevant and interesting content. But I wouldn't mind seeing it merged for all that... Saegeas (talk) 23:39, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

• Support, with the Esoteric Order of Dagon section being merged to Deep One instead. --Lord Belbury (talk) 13:54, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Move and   Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 08:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)