Talk:Intake

does it save on gas

Almost every manufacturer produces a model with individual throttle bodies. Not just Nissan and BMW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.64.50 (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps you are not aware of what an individual throttle body is? Individual throttle bodies are not common. You only see them in high performance cars. The standard is and has been a single throttle body. Perhaps you are thinking of intake runners? List me off the Toyota, Saturn, Vauxhall, Chrysler etc. engines that came with individual throttle bodies, if you would be so kind. .45Colt 14:09, 15 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by .45Colt (talk • contribs)

MUST BE GENERALIZED!!!!

Intakes are used also in other types of engines (gas turbines, jets) !!!! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 14:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Article in general.

This article needs a lot of work. There is an article about the intake manifold which is where half of the stuff on this article belongs. The intake system has nothing to do with resonance; that is the job of the intake runners. Some car companies created intake MANIFOLDS with variable length runners, NOT variable length intake piping, which is what this article seems to be saying (BTW, Toyota also did this). Car companies do NOT "carefully tune" the intake to aid performance. If you are lucky they try to make it as un-restrictive as possible...within a certain cost. There is a loose rule for the amount of volume and width you want for the expected air flow of the engine it's attached too, but it's built to cost and is usually far from ideal. The ideal intake piping is NONE. That is why race cars don't use any. If you NEED it to mount and air filter, to get cooler air, or because you are running a turbocharger, the best tubing is short, and smooth. How often do you see short, smooth intakes on factory cars? Not often. Aftermarket intakes (the decent ones) are figured to restrict as little as possible, but they still hurt performance. Also, they don't measure intake flow at the ports last I knew...they measure intake MANIFOLD flow at the ports on the flow bench. Not the same thing at all. Next, the picture of the Mercedes seems to be showing one of the brake-cooling vents. Even if that does go to the air intake system, it is not part of the intake itself and is very confusing for someone who wants to learn something. Third, "buffeting and vibration" is turbulence, and it's bad. It is not what you want your intake to do. -So, factory intakes = designed to make the car as quiet as possible, and hopefully not be too restrictive (they also try to make the volume big enough that throttle response is hurt, but not so big that the airflow slows down too much.) -Intake manifolds = where resonance and tuning takes place, and are what you measure on a flow bench. -An intake on a grill =/= an intake system, even if it connects to it (which is very rare). -Porsche and other = variable length intake runners, not variable length intake piping. -buffeting and vibrating = bad. -restriction = bad -intake piping = restriction -well designed intake piping = less restricting than some A.45Colt 14:46, 15 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by .45Colt (talk • contribs)

Move discussion in progress

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Scope of the article should match scope of the term

The term intake as an opening does not only refer to automobile engines and aircraft engines, or even only to the intake of air. It is a general term for a place through which a fluid is admitted to a relative interior from a relative exterior, and the article should be expanded to cover the full scope of this meaning. There are also other meanings, and it is not immediately obvious which one is the primary meaning, or even if there is a primary meaning. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 05:26, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

An intake (also inlet) is an opening or structure...

What intake is a structure but not an opening? or, what is the value of the word "structure"? Thanks. Pieter1963 (talk) 19:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

In its most basic form, the intake is just an opening, so we inform the user of that.

But most intakes also have intricacies involving how it affects the external aerodynamics of the vehicle, internal splitting into multiple streams (eg, manifolds), intercoolers, plenum chambers, throttle bodies, bypass flaps (see SR71 jet engine or cold/warm air inlets for cars), tuned length inlets, tuned width inlets and many other details. So we inform the user of that too.  Stepho  talk  20:33, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

I think we need to add 'component' to cover these things. All these are usually called components, not structures. An engine is an assembly of components and if you assemble all the intake components, for example, you'd call it an intake assembly, not an intake structure. However, there is a place for calling the engine a structure, eg "the vibrations of the engine structure are a source of noise". An aircraft intake is known as a structure.

I suggest changing the statement to "An intake (also inlet) is an opening or passage in a component or structure through which...." Pieter1963 (talk) 19:35, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't agree 10% with everything you said there but I'm happy enough with the proposed change.  Stepho  talk  00:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

I can't figure this out

An intake can be an outlet at the same time – the intake for a hydro-electric generator turbine may be an outlet for a dam, where the turbine is inside relative to the dam, and the dam is inside relative to the river valley below.

Is there a simpler way to say it? ThanksPieter1963 (talk) 21:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

ref the photo of the Mercedes

The black grille is identified as "the engine intake". It was pointed out some years ago by .45colt that it looked more it supplies air for brake cooling. Can this be clarified? Thanks Pieter1963 (talk) 15:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)