Talk:International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 03:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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1910 International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park

• ... that in 1910 the nine day International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park (pictured) offered prizes valued at US$72,300 (equivalent to $2,354,400 in 2023)? Source: $72,300 in prizes
  • ALT1: ... that America's first female licensed pilot (Harriet Quimby) became interested in aviation when she attended the the 1910 International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park (pictured)? Source: In October 1910, she accepted an assignment to cover New York’s Belmont Air Meet. Became the first American woman to earn a pilot’s license (license #37). and Quimby became interested in aviation in late October 1910, when she attended the Belmont Park International Aviation Tournament
  • ALT2: ... that American aviator John Moisant won US$10,000 (equivalent to $327,000 in 2023) at the 1910 International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park (pictured) but he was disqualified after he died? Source: aviation prize winners
  • ALT3: ... that American aviator John Moisant crashed his plane twice before participating in the 1910 International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park (pictured)? Source: First crash and second crash
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Created by Lightburst (talk). Self-nominated at 19:48, 6 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Lightburst: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:09, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Errors

• The documents in the article all seem to call it the "International Aviation Tournament". Was that the contemporary name? Abductive (reasoning) 09:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

• The image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Planes_in_flight_aviation_meet,_Belmont,_N.Y._LOC_29720142055.jpg used in the gallery section is not from this event. Commons file information indicates the photograph was taken in 1915, this article is about the event in 1910. -Garyvp71 (talk) 14:39, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 18:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Happy to review this article for you. AM

Review comments

Lead section/infobox

• The lead needs to be expanded so that it is a better summary of the main text (see MOS:INTRO). Done
• Link aerial show (presumably Air show); altitude.  Done
• Link Belmont Park in the infobox caption.  Done
• The infobox and main text of the article says tournament, but the lead says aerial show. The main text also calls it a meet. I would be more consistent here. Done attempted to use standardize usage

Background

• Is the Aero Club Corporation the same as the Aero Club of America? If so, it can be linked.  Done
• The significance of the Wright Company may not be obvious to all readers, and so should be briefly explained. Done
• Why is "electric light" in quotes? (removed)  Done
• Link grandstand; Jacques Faure (Jacques Faure). linked grandstand, added link to Fr wiki, but not sure I did it right
• at Belmont Park is redundant text and can be removed. Done

History

• Link Alfred Leblanc; John Moisant altitude (as in the lead). Done
• the nine day (October 22–31, 1910) event – can be simplified to remove duplicate information, as the event clearly took place over 9 days.  Done
• Scientific American is linked, but not Statue of Liberty?  Done
• they sued the Aero Corporation over payments… this seems to be in the wrong part of the article, chronologically speaking. Did they sue the company before the races took place, as could to be implied here? moved the paragraph to hopefully the correct area  Done
• American aviator Harriet Quimby – as up to this point none of the other aviator's nationalities are mentioned, I am unclear why hers is here. Also, if she was already an aviator, why did she become interested in aviation during the event? clarified, she became interested and later became an aviator  Done
• It was there that she met John Moisant and his sister Matilde. Why is this notable? reworked the section
• John Moisant of Chicago – why of Chicago? (None of the other aviators’ home towns have been named up to this point.) removed  Done
• crashed twice at the show is redundant, as the test that follows makes this clear. hopefully clarified  Done
• and when he was helped – runs on from a statement. It should be included in a separate sentence. (See Sentence_clause_structure#Run-on_sentences.)  Done
• the $10,000 prize money - ‘the prize money’.  Done
• I would place the image on the right (see MOS:IMAGELOC). Done

Controversy

• There is no need for this separate section heading, particularly as there is text (The aviation committee met to discuss Grahame-White's protest.) that relates directly with text from the previous section. Done
• The first paragraph needs to be copy edited to remove duplicate information and improve the prose.  Done
• Link wing tip (Wing tip), note correct spelling. Done

Gallery

• As I assume the images in this section are all to be found in the Commons category, there is no need for the gallery. See MOS:IMAGES for further information about images and galleries, which discusses my point. removed Done

See also

• List of air shows – should be removed. It is a list of extant shows, and so does not relate to this article. Done
• The Wild Flower and the Rose (which should be in italics in the article, as it is a film) relates to the article, but isn’t mentioned anywhere in the text, and it needs to be. added italics to the see also. Unfortunately the Smithsonian link is dead and I cannot find RS to say that the parts of the movie were from the air show, so i thought best to leave it in See also

Unfortunately, if the connection cannot be verified, the film should not have a link in this article. Amitchell125 (talk) 08:08, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

The link to the Smithsonian page is here (archive url here). There is no mention of the film, though. Amitchell125 (talk) 08:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Removed the See also section. Oddly enough The Wild Flower and the Rose is a GA. Most of the references are passing mentions or announcements related to the movie.

References

• Several of the links I checked did not load properly. You may need to check them to ensure you are confident that they are OK.some load slow, but they work for me
• What makes you think that Ref 7 (Tallman) is a reliable source? (WP:SELFPUB) removed

External links

• 1910 International Aviation Meet at Belmont Park in Elmont, NY links to a YouTube video. See WP:YTCOPYRIGHT for why this video should be used only if it clear that there is no copyright violation. removed

On hold

I'm putting the article on hold for a week until 14 March to allow time for the issues raised to be addressed. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 09:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Passing

Looks good,thanks for producing a fine article. Amitchell125 (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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