Talk:International Conference on Surface Plasmon Photonics

undone changes from 17:28, 3 June 2019‎ Randykitty

Can someone explain this?

I am for undoing the deletion of my changes, on:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_on_Surface_Plasmon_Photonics

the following reasons were given:

• "unencyclopedic: WP:NOTDIRECTORY, WP:NOTWEBHOST, belongs on organization's own website"
• (NB: "encyclopedic (also encyclopaedic) ADJECTIVE 1 Comprehensive in terms of information". Source: Oxford Dict.)
• there is no SPP conference website. it is organized by individual hosts. - hence wikipedia. given an overview of historic information.
• WP:NOTDIRECTORY doesnt apply.
• WP:NOTWEBHOST doesnt apply. [otherwise please explain.]

My changes, providing history to the locations, chairs (scientists) is a key encyclopedic information.

See e.g. thousandfold of wikipedia articles like

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_on_Neutrino_Physics_and_Astrophysics
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Conference_on_Low_Temperature_Physics
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_on_Climate_Change
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_AIDS_Society
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_on_High_Energy_Physics
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHEP_Conference — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.226.87.11 (talk) 12:14, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
• ... etc.

a conference's history must included past events and key people and dates. - lists and maps of the history of events are all over wikipedia. thousandfold. to delete all these entries in hundreds of articles would be 'unencyclopedic'. :-(

can someone comment on this? otherwise i will undone the changes. it is slowing down the progress of the article with regard to many more developed articles of similar subject matter.

marcus 130.226.87.11 (talk) 11:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks for bringing those articles to my attention, when I find a moment, I will clean those up. As for the fact that you can find articles that don't conform to our guidelines, well, the simple fact is that with almost 6 million articles, that is basically unavoidable. We call that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS (or, less reverently, WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS). --Randykitty (talk) 12:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

• ............ ? You can't be serious, can you? You are in the wrong here. Not the millions of articles. And you do not address the raised questions. The reasons you gave do not apply. A history normally includes the past. A Wikipedia is nothing without historic overviews of events etc. - Could you please comment on it? - e.g. why should the main article for a sports event not include its history? an encyclopedia is the ONLY place where that can be found. 130.226.87.11 (talk) 12:33, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

• There's nothing special about a scientific meeting in some year taking place in, e.g. Rome or Barcelona or wherever. The content of the meeting will not change according to location. So unless something special happened, it is absolutely uninteresting to say that a conference took place in Berlin in 1981. See Behavior Genetics Association, for example. Despite having had annual meetings since the early 70s, only one meeting is mentioned because something of note happened and is documented by independent reliable sources. Similarly, unless there are such sources documenting a person's involvement with the meeting, information about who was the local host is absolutely uninteresting to any reader. --Randykitty (talk) 12:49, 4 June 2019 (UTC)