Talk:International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling
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Dolphins
editDoes the convention apply to dolphins and porpoises, which belong to the same order as all whale species, but not covered by the same English word whale? 116.48.155.127 (talk) 15:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- The answer is "maybe". From the IWC website: "The 1946 Convention does not define a ‘whale’, although a list of names in a number of languages was annexed to the Final Act of the Convention. Some Governments take the view that the IWC has the legal competence to regulate catches of only these named great whales (the baleen whales and the sperm whale). Others believe that all cetaceans, including the smaller dolphins and porpoises, also fall within IWC jurisdiction." Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- I see. Is there any ruling, so far, regarding dolphins and porpoises? This reminds me of the Taiji dolphin drive hunt. 116.48.155.127 (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Not that I know of, no. Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- I see. So presumably the recent ruling regarding Japan doesn't readily apply to what happens in places like Taiji.. Shall we proceed to add IWC's position regarding smaller cetaceans into the article? 116.48.155.127 (talk) 15:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- I suppose a lot will depend on how Japan interprets the convention. The ICJ judgment was dealing entirely with Japan's hunt of the larger cetaceans. Sounds like a good idea to add the information on the smaller ones to the article. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:24, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- In that case they probably won't relent regarding smaller cetaceans. The quote has been added to the article. 116.48.155.127 (talk) 16:48, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- I suppose a lot will depend on how Japan interprets the convention. The ICJ judgment was dealing entirely with Japan's hunt of the larger cetaceans. Sounds like a good idea to add the information on the smaller ones to the article. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:24, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- I see. So presumably the recent ruling regarding Japan doesn't readily apply to what happens in places like Taiji.. Shall we proceed to add IWC's position regarding smaller cetaceans into the article? 116.48.155.127 (talk) 15:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Not that I know of, no. Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Faroe Islands and Greenland
editDenmark is a signatory. Does the convention apply to the Faroes and Greenland? 116.48.155.127 (talk) 15:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, the convention applies to the Faroes and Greenland. Denmark has adopted an "opt out" system whereby any treaty it ratifies does apply to the Faroes and Greenland unless Denmark explicitly makes a statement that the treaty does not apply to them. For this treaty, Denmark has made no statement one way or the other, so the treaty does apply to the entire kingdom. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- So why is hunting allowed in the Faroes? 116.48.155.127 (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know much about the specifics, but note that the treaty doesn't prohibit all whaling, but rather is meant to regulate it in certain ways. The article Whaling in the Faroe Islands says that "It is regulated by Faroese authorities but not by the International Whaling Commission as there are disagreements about the Commission's legal competency for small cetaceans." Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Then what's the point of acceding to the convention? 116.48.155.127 (talk) 15:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- I suspect that the Faroes would entirely support the IWC's regulations on the hunting of large cetaceans—the ones that are explicitly mentioned in the convention. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- I see. Thanks. 116.48.155.127 (talk) 16:48, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- I suspect that the Faroes would entirely support the IWC's regulations on the hunting of large cetaceans—the ones that are explicitly mentioned in the convention. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Then what's the point of acceding to the convention? 116.48.155.127 (talk) 15:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know much about the specifics, but note that the treaty doesn't prohibit all whaling, but rather is meant to regulate it in certain ways. The article Whaling in the Faroe Islands says that "It is regulated by Faroese authorities but not by the International Whaling Commission as there are disagreements about the Commission's legal competency for small cetaceans." Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
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