Talk:International Holocaust Cartoon Competition

Holocaust denial claims

This article should be protected in order to prevent the false claims of holocaust denial from continuing to be added. Someone is trolling this article in order to paint Latuff and the cartoon competition as antisemites. The source used to claim that the competition has anything to do with holocaust denial, does not say that. The person who re-added the claim, is lying when he/she says that it does. 24.16.5.125 (talk) 16:10, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh, our eyes must be lying then when viewing these images... 86.131.228.143 (talk) 18:58, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Better Picture needed

we need a better picture for this article. Chavatshimshon 01:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't it make more sense for the winning cartoon to be put in the lead? 138.237.165.140 04:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I think the cartoon needs to stay where it is. I don't get it though. I do find it ironic that the Muslims complained so much about the cartoons on the Jyllands newspaper controversy, and yet there isn't complaining by Jews here to remove this image. Titanium Dragon 01:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

How is that ironic? :-) I guess the Jews (notice the lumping of people into a homogenous group based on one characteristic) have a sense of humor. See Israeli Anti-Semitic Cartoons Contest and Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan for example. --GunnarRene 01:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Alan Dershowitz claims

Dershowitz claims [1] that the 2nd prize in this competition went to a cartoon of him masturbating over dead leabanese. I had a look on the official site but dont see that particular cartoon. Is Dershowitz wrong?

Looks like hes right 2nd prize went to the artist who did the Dershowitz cartoon. Done by Latuff [2]

Surprised there isn't a link to the Muslim cartoon of Hitler in bed with Anne Frank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.92.31 (talk) 11:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Category:Holocaust denial

Why is this article in Category:Holocaust denial? If any it should be in Category:The Holocaust or Category:Holocaust in popular culture. // Liftarn

It is in Category:Holocaust denial because, as mentioned in the article, it is viewed as being part of Holocaust denial.

Category:Holocaust in popular culture was merged to Category:The Holocaust, so I added the latter to the article. Paradoctor (talk) 20:29, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Resolved

confusing link

This link is in question:

• "Iran's Holocaust Cartoon Contest" --Official English International Website (parody from Holocaust Survivors and Remembrance Network)

It looks like a legitimate site - "Holocaust Survivors and Remembrance Network" - but this is just a site somebody set up randomly. It's no associated with any formal group, and has no authority to be "Official" in any way. Not to say that Wikipedia is censored, or that this matter is censored, but there's really no reason to link here, as far as I can tell, and that's the reason I've removed it. Yes it's inflammatory, offensive, etc. That's not necessarily a reason to move a useful or needed link. But this link seems unneeded and useless. If I'm wrong, explain why and add it back, but I see no need for it and believe it's misleading and doesn't merit inclusion. --Cheeser1 02:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Resolved

Link is no longer in the article. Paradoctor (talk) 20:20, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Where are the cartoons?

Why are the cartoons not posted on Wikipedia like they are for Danish cartoons? 75.87.86.76 (talk) 21:34, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia has double standards... they show all or atleast many of the danish cartoons but when it comes to iran's cartoons... none can be seen except one... you take all rights in the name of freedom of speech, but when others excercise those same rights, that becomes racism for you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.76.64.16 (talk) 12:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

That's actually a good question. I came on here to prove a point about the Muhammad cartoons being repeated simply for encyclopaedic purposes, and because of the WP:NPOV and WP:CENSOR]] [[policies of wikipedia (though counterbalanced by the WP:PROFANE ) and, much to my surprise, I found that there are no cartoons on here. These are double standards clearly in violation, and the cartoons ought to put back. Rlinfinity (talk) 01:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Resolved

Right now, the article has both winner and second place entries. Paradoctor (talk) 20:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

External Links - Iran Cartoon

Please note that the irancartoon.com and irancartoon.ir websites are not responding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.254.251.144 (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Contest poster

I found a contest poster on Daryl Cagle's blog, look for the entry dated "NOVEMBER 4, 2006". If you want it, I'll try to get permission. Reply here, I'm watching. Paradoctor (talk) 02:14, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

@Paradoctor - I know it is 7 years too late, but please do try. The article would do with more winning pictures. Zezen (talk) 16:54, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@Zezen: Page is available on archive.org, though without the image. The archive on cagle.com goes back only to 2010. Your best bet is to mail editor@cagle.com, and ask if they still have the image, and would give permission, or know who holds the rights. Good luck! Paradoctor (talk) 20:17, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@Paradoctor:

Thanks for the info. I found a few copies on archive.is, but I am not bothered to hunt the copyright holders for the inclusion herein. (Although I have written to FECO cartoonists about a related matter).

I just wondered why these two entries shown were not satirical and somehow "lame": is it my subjective Western-European mind and thus the sense of humor, or the winning entries were meant to be so sombre and unengaging? Zezen (talk) 20:24, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Political cartoons are (frequently polemic) opinion pieces. Satire is often used, but not required. And the second one is IMHO a fine example of the genre. Paradoctor (talk) 20:37, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Merger proposal

The page Abdellah Derkaoui says nothing about the cartoonist beyond his nationality and winning this contest. Unless more information on him (other work, birthdate, hometown) can be verified and included, I suggest redirecting his article here. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:45, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Since no one opposed, I performed the merger. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:16, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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This Article is Antisemitism but Everybody Draw Mohammed Day is Fine?

How is this clear double standard allowed to continue? Either Everybody Draw Mohammed Day, needs to be added to the Anti Islamic category (does it even exist?) OR This article needs to removed from Antisemitism group, as clearly it is not!

Which way should it go? --Femanistfantasical (talk) 08:09, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

There is a large difference between being the subject of mass murder fantasies on one hand and having people who do not believe in your religion in the first place not adhere to its tenets. (Muslims are not allowed by their religion to draw Mohammed, non-Muslims are. People who think the rules of Islam apply to everybody are called Islamists, and they can go and stick it.) --Hob Gadling (talk) 09:36, 15 March 2021 (UTC)