Talk:International Silver Company

New company - silver trading

FYI, the unsourced addition reverted back on the International Silver Co. page seems in fundamental conflict with this New York Times article, listed as the second footnote: https://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/14/business/insilco-declares-bankruptcy.html . ;-)

Mrdnartdesign, According to this, the company diversified beginning in the 1950s, changed name to INSILCO in 1969, sold the silver business (still called International Silver Co. in 1983, went bankrupt in 1991, emerged in 1993 and continued in other industries. This says it changed is name to Insilco Tecnhologies in 2000 and went bankrupt again in 2004. None of this seems to be covered anywhere in Wikipedia.

I don't think the reverted info is in conflict. This is about another entity formed from IP of the old silver business. This mentions both "Charles Long" & "International Silver" but I can't currently read it. So I don't think it is blatently wrong. (And don't forget to sign all talk page messages) MB 20:31, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, the company diversified, and with the INSILCO name change, they still received patents to 'International Silver Company' into the late 1970s. I hope this guy pulls up some good sources re: 'IP of the old silver business', because the entire corporate archive including design patterns, etc. was donated to a Meriden historical society in c. 1983 and is still there today. (It's easy to show sources on this.) If you bought a company's IP, wouldn't you also get all of their IP documentation? In any event, it looks like we'll find out in due course. Mrdnartdesign 29 April 2019

Wiki project

I politely question the positioning of possible decision-making under a "Connecticut portal". Why would it be there-- because the company made products in CT? With this logic, actress Katherine Hepburn, who lived in Fenwick / Old Saybrook, CT would be placed in the CT portal. Architect Philip Johnson who lived in New Canaan, CT would be placed in this portal. The facts are that the CT market did not support all three efforts at any significant level throughout their careers. Their sales, careers, and reputations were built not in CT, but nationally and internationally, through specialist and more powerful networks. For ISC, their biggest supporter today is the Dallas Museum of Art, in Texas, not CT. ISC's main showroom and international marketing efforts were out of New York. The ISC Silver Theater was based in Hollywood and featured numerous stars. If under decision-makers, I feel, the theater should be under a Hollywood portal of some kind, not CT, and ISC under 'silver' in some way as ISC is clearly a hugely important entity in silver history. CT was the site of the making and a small fraction of the international buying. Is Michelangelo straight-jacketed into the Rome portal, or the wider Italian work and international impact is considered? Mrdnartdesign 12 May 2019

It's normal for a company headquartered in a state to be of interest to the project for that state. It can be added to other relevant projects as well. MB 01:47, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough. Do you know where I'd find a list of the various kinds of portals on Wiki? It's the design history sphere that drives the discourses, academic research, etc. IS Theater is a standard thing in old-time radio books and that discourse. Mrdnartdesign 13 May 2019

Find another article on a similar subject and see the projects there, or try WP:WikiProject. And you should properly indent talkpages with the colon character. MB 19:21, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! There is a product / industrial design portal. I will figure out how to add. Mrdnartdesign 13 May 2019

Source on company's history and closing

According to Connecticut Explored (a standalone publication that's separate from the state historical society), the company's hollowware division was shut down in a dramatic closing in March 1981. And sadly that its original design drawings not sold to another company were shredded. Article discusses the difficulties of the silver business after the 1970s and the new CEO's siphoning profits to fund a conglomerate.

https://www.ctexplored.org/international-silver-company-shines-once-more/

I just ran across this doing other research and thought it looks like a good source. At least could be cited in the closing date of the company. Apologies that I am not a proficient Wikipedia editor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madeine (talk • contribs) 22:31, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Madeine thank you for this. I have added the reference to the article. It could be expanded further from this source. Please don't hesitate to do so. You can reuse this citation by adding {{r|CE}} MB 16:40, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Orphaned references in International Silver Company

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of International Silver Company's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Stern":

• From Simpson, Hall, Miller & Co.: Stern, Jewel. (2005). Modernism in American silver, p. 355. Dallas Museum of Art and Yale University Press.
• From R. Wallace & Sons: Stern, Jewel. (2005). Modernism in American silver. Dallas Museum of Art and Yale University Press. Retrieved October 29, 2016.
• From Lurelle Guild: Stern, Jewel. (2005). Modernism in American silver: 20th century design. Dallas Museum of Art and Yale University Press; retrieved January 2, 2007.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 08:19, 8 September 2022 (UTC)