Talk:International XT

Commercial Extreme Truck is the name

I had a hard time finding the Commercial Extreme Truck on Wikipedia because there's no mention other than "CXT" here. There needs to be a redirect from "Commercial Extreme Truck" and what the other names (RXT, MXT) stand for (if anything) needs to be made clear. Fixed Tmaull 16:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I answered my own question and noted that RXT stands for Recreational Extreme Truck. I still couldn't find out for sure what MXT stands for, but it looks like it might be Military Extreme Truck based on this: [1]

Criticisms

"Shame on International for making this thing...This is a monster truck that only a Hummer could love, and it shows that without government leadership, the auto industry will lead us to more irresponsible, gas-guzzling vehicles." Isn't that what CAFE is all about? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Average_Fuel_Economy

Shame on the producer only? Ok, maybe they shouldn't have built this, but shame on the consumer for buying it as well. As long as the consumer gives the auto industry the incentive to build huge vehicles, they will. Changing topic slightly: there are only 500-1000 units of this vehicle produced annually, there are much larger battles to be fought on the environmental lines. To start, you could look to gain support for International's hybrid system for heavy-duty work trucks.

Please take note that the CXT is essentially the same truck as the DuraStar, a medium duty truck that International sells over 100,000 units a year. You know, the trucks that plow your streets, pick up your garbage and take your kids to school. Same engine, same chassis, same drive train. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShulaCuse (talk • contribs) 22:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

The CXT is NOT the same as the DuraStar, which is the 4000 series medium-duty truck. The CXT is built on the 7000 series chassis; the one International uses for its dumptrucks and other severe-service trucks. I have driven the DuraStar and I can tell you it is not the same. The engine is the same but the drivetrain is not, as the 4000 is 2WD and the CXT is 4WD.--Lpimlott 05:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a really simple solution to this preachy bullshit--I'm deleting it. This is an encyclopedia, not Mother Jones News. --Free-world 01:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

By all means. I think that every dang product review should have a section that requires input from the Sierra Club braintrust. The first thing I do when I purchase a vehicle is go to SierraClub.com to ask their permission. Maybe International will make a hybrid version? It's for the children, after all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AZRickD (talk • contribs) 14:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I htink we should run over all the hippies with this truck —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.64.34.59 (talk) 19:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Reason for halting production

What were the multiple issues International had with this truck? The only issue I can see is either poor sales or EPA emission laws interfered with the design. And to all the babies crying about how its a big truck: shut up. No one should be able to dictate what anyone owns. Its up to people to make informed, responsible choices. If they choose to buy a pickup truck built on a vocational truck chassis then so be it. On a side note, I thought the MXT was a bit excessive but I did see the potential for International to break into the heavy duty diesel pickup truck market. The MXT was an interesting design and the RXT made sense for RV and other goose-neck trailer haulers. 68.165.249.102 (talk) 13:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

As WP isn't a forum, that was likely the wording chosen to avoid discussing these sort of issues (which would be deleted real fast). On the other hand, there is this:

• The XT-Series had no "apples vs. apples" competition (aside from conversions of Freightliner M2s and GMC Kodiaks of the time; neither were factory-built)
• The XT-Series was a high-end vehicle sold in a recession by a manufacturer new to the segment (compared to the Big Three).
• The XT-Series may have missed its target audience; as the article said, International was hoping for business owners to account for most sales while the results may or may not have ended up that way.

In other words, other factors (instead of its size) were behind its demise. --SteveCof00 (talk) 19:41, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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