Talk:International reactions to the killing of Muammar Gaddafi

Untitled

I moved this discussion from my talk page to the place where the discussion belongs: gidonb (talk) 20:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

It's NOT "Continents" necessarily, but REGIONS of the world, and "Middle East" is a recognized and established category, distinct from "Asia" !!! Lebanon is NOT considered "Asia", but MIDDLE EAST!

will you please stop doing this! It's NOT a matter OF "CONTINENTS" NECESSARILY, BUT REGIONS REGIONS...Lebanon is NOT considered in "Asia", but MIDDLE EAST. You're uptightly hung up on "continents", when where do you see the word "continents" in the heading necessarily? It's general regions, and continents happen to be one of them. But not the only. And "Middle East" happens to be an established and distinct region. So what? The point is this... If you were to ask a Lebanese person what he was, I guarantee you that he would NOT say "I'm Asian". The Middle East is and always has been considered a DISTINCT REGION and separate from what is known as "Asia". Stop doing this. Because you'll only be reverted again and again. It's insane to put Lebanon or Iraq in "Asia". They're not really "Asians" in that sense, and NOBODY EVER CALLS THEM "ASIANS"...and you should know that. They're MIDDLE EASTERNS, and "Middle East" is a recognized and established category. Separate from "Asia", and considered distinct in many ways. That's just a fact, not an opinion. Look that up on Wikipedia if you have to. Also, for example, if you look up "Lebanon" on Wikipedia, you will NOT find it considered as in "Asia", but "Middle East". As something different. The "Middle East" is simply not considered a part of "Asia" per se. In listings, in sources, etc. Not really. Please stop edit warring. The fact is that "Middle East" is MORE PRECISE AND MORE ACCURATE for something like "Lebanon". NOT "Asia". And again, it's not a matter of "continents" necessarily, but simply geographic regions. Regards. Hashem sfarim (talk) 18:37, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Hashem sfarim, your above message and your edit warring in Death of Muammar Gaddafi do not make sense, are aggressive, and against our rules and regulations. If you believe that the Middle East belongs in the list of Asia, Africa, Europe, North America, Oceania, and South America you should argue this with references at the relevant Wikipedia page and not tell me what is in your opinion "considered" and a "fact" in aggressive wording and titling here, while keeping the quality of the article hostage to your original research and ownership. gidonb (talk) 11:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

My only points were that it's not necessarily "continents", but simply geographical "regions", that are or can be considered. Many other WP articles with "international reactions" have "Middle East" as a more precise, more specific, and more accurate term for something like "Lebanon". It's true, I guess, that "Western Asia" may be accurate too, but it's not what is generally considered in listings, and can be confusing. "Original research" or not, but common sense, do you think that Lebanese people go around calling themselves "Asians"? Or that people in general call Beirut and Lebanon "Asia"? "Middle East" is also a recognized and established and official term, that has nothing to do with "original research". Again, the main point, and sorry for my blunt tone before, was simply that it's not necessarily "continents", but general regions of the world, and "Middle East" simply is more precise and narrower and less confusing than "Asia" for something like Iraq or especially Lebanon. Regards. Hashem sfarim (talk) 19:32, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Your unreferenced personal perception of personal perceptions in Lebanon and Iraq is extremely irrelevant to the matter, as is your suggestion that the continents should be viewed as regions. These consist of original research enforced through edit wars and apparent "article ownership". Your suggestion to see the continents as regions is 100% the opposite of your related suggestion: to be more specific. Both should be viewed as opportunity arguments made apropos edit wars that burden articles and talk pages with caps, long titles, irrelevant summaries, wrongheaded categories, and a lot of words that fail logical consistency. Even if we view all your categories as regions, still the "region" of Asia would be depleted of part of its countries to the partially overlapping region of the Middle East. Same with Africa and the Middle East. Thus, either way, the Middle East can never be included next to Asia, but only a combination of its sub-regions, which doesn't fly at Wikipedia as it isn't well defined. Same problem with Africa. Latin America and Northern (vs North) America are better defined and still hardly used side by side! We have traditions at Wikpedia and the scientific community that are built on logic and not bend by aggressive editing! gidonb (talk) 02:07, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Flag African Union.svg Nominated for speedy Deletion

An image used in this article, File:Flag African Union.svg, has been nominated for speedy deletion at Wikimedia Commons for the following reason: Copyright violations What should I do? Don't panic; deletions can take a little longer at Commons than they do on Wikipedia. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion (although please review Commons guidelines before doing so). The best way to contest this form of deletion is by posting on the image talk page. If the image is non-free then you may need to upload it to Wikipedia (Commons does not allow fair use) If the image isn't freely licensed and there is no fair use rationale then it cannot be uploaded or used. If the image has already been deleted you may want to try Commons Undeletion Request This notification is provided by a Bot --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 14:44, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton's reaction

Why no mention of how Clinton laughed and quipped, "We Came, We Saw, He Died" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y 69.172.105.181 (talk) 06:44, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Category for Tasmania?

Where we can add the following note in this page?

" *Tasmania – Aboriginal lawyer and activist Michael Mansell condemns the death of Gaddafi, he said "No foreign leader out of step with the US is safe, especially when oil is involved", and slammed Obama "Instead of welcoming Barak Obama to Australia he should be arrested for crimes against humanity and war crimes, and put on trial in the Hague." " Clarificationgiven (talk) 05:57, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

It's not notable. He's not an elected official, much less a national leader. He's not even a state leader. He's just an activist. They're a dime a dozen and if Wikipedia wasted its bandwidth reporting the opinion of every single activist, well, it would be pretty pointless. -Kudzu1 (talk) 06:17, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Let's see what others say. Clarificationgiven (talk) 06:34, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

References

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 5 external links on International reactions to the death of Muammar Gaddafi. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120612064302/http://www.info.gov.za/speech/DynamicAction?pageid=461&sid=22558&tid=46726 to http://www.info.gov.za/speech/DynamicAction?pageid=461&sid=22558&tid=46726
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120430110823/http://www.dailynews.co.tz/home/?n=24756&cat=home to http://www.dailynews.co.tz/home/?n=24756&cat=home
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120407105939/http://www.kormany.hu/hu/kulugyminiszterium/hirek/martonyi-janos-kulugyminiszter-nyilatkozata to http://www.kormany.hu/hu/kulugyminiszterium/hirek/martonyi-janos-kulugyminiszter-nyilatkozata
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120415193815/http://www.americasforum.com/content/nicaraguan-minister-miguel-descoto-laments-death-libyan-dictator-gaddafi to http://www.americasforum.com/content/nicaraguan-minister-miguel-descoto-laments-death-libyan-dictator-gaddafi
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120106214205/http://caricom.org/jsp/pressreleases/press_releases_2011/pres387_11.jsp to http://www.caricom.org/jsp/pressreleases/press_releases_2011/pres387_11.jsp

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:48, 15 November 2017 (UTC)