Talk:Invisible dictatorship

Merge proposal

It is hard to say whether this is a serious suggestion or not as the person who has put the merge suggestion has not proviided any comment here.Harrypotter 17:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thats because this isnt the discussion page for the merge. See Talk:Mikhail Bakunin#Merge from Invisible Dictatorship. That being said, now that the article is about more than just Bakunin's use of the term, a merge may not be the correct course of action. Let's see what others think. - N1h1l 19:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Self Refrence

Someone deleted the refrence to wikipedia, sauing it was a s elf reference. WHY?Harrypotter 02:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I removed this section again - not because it's a self-reference, which isn't a problem in itself (after all, we have an article on Wikipedia), but because it's not notable. I see no evidence that this phrase is used to criticise Wikipedia outside of that one website, which quite clearly belongs to a non-notable fringe organisation, and thus isn't very suitable as a source. If you can provide evidence that the phrase is used by mainstream groups, or on a broader scale, then it can be restored, but the old section seemed more like a soapbox for one minor group's criticism of Wikipedia than serious encyclopaedic information. Terraxos (talk) 16:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

--Censorship!!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.69.55.145 (talk) 10:33, 3 February 2012 (UTC) 

Criticism

I have taken the recently added comments about criticism and placed them in their own section and reworded them in a way which is more NPOV. Leutha (talk) 14:13, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Article restored

Not sure why this was turned into a redirect as no discussion here for over ten years. Have added material to the Criticism section. Leutha (talk) 18:07, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

• The edit summary adequately explained the rationale but can discuss here: Talk:Mikhail Bakunin#Proposed merge with Invisible dictatorship czar 17:19, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Moved to Talk:Mikhail Bakunin § Proposed merge with Invisible dictatorship

After two and half months there has been no reply to this:

Well, I find some of these arguments a bit odd:

• The page is quite clearly about what is mentioned in the title: Invisible Dictatorship. It discusses how the term emerged out of the concrete conditions of its time and how it has remained in use in more recent discussion of revolutionary theory.
• The references are reliable – i.e the reference to Red Action, for example, is reliable because it evidences the use of the term by Red Action in more recent discourse without endorsing their viewpoint and is balanced by John Farthing II's use of the term in a positive fashion. Both of these are evidencing the use of the term by people other than Bakunin. But this is a scatter gun approach, rather than a tangible criticism.
• The suggestion that it "compiles every mention of Bakunin's idea" is really weird - a google search reveals 3,220 results for the phrase.
• The page is also linked to a corresponding page on the Spanish wikipedia.

Leutha (talk) 19:41, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Please retain any further discussion here. Leutha (talk) 10:32, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Responding on more lengthy discussion link above. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)