Talk:Involuntary park

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Bbreslau in topic Golan Heights?

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I was under the impression that Valdez, Alaska was totally relocated following the Good Friday earthquake, not Anchorage, AK. The citys' articles aren't totally unambiguous, but the Valdez article does hint at this and I seem to remember hearing about this when visiting Valdez too... 130.132.6.41 (talk) 05:47, 30 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Citation needed

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There doesn't appear to be any link to an original source which shows Bruce Sterling using this term. Certainly the link provided at "Wildlife defies Chernobyl Radiation", BBC doesn't appear to mention either Bruce Sterling, or the term Involuntary park. Tommfuller (talk) 07:21, 16 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

See the first reference, to the Viridian note. --Chronodm (talk) 09:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Seems delete-able?

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This article is just about one single concept put forth by one single person. Are there any examples of other people using this term? Is the list in the article just a list of places editors think qualify to be "involuntary parks," or are there third-party citations that demonstrate this? 24.20.200.67 (talk) 04:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Edit: I have found a few examples of the term used by others than Sterling, one of them BBC(!). It is not ideal (dangerously close to original research), but at least it is proof positive that the term is in use. Petter Bøckman (talk) 20:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

List page

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Should there be sufficient sources, would it be worth branching the list section off (or moving this page to) List of involuntary parks? This could then be built up with pages like List of national parks of the United States as a model, and if only branched from this page, a selection of the listed areas kept here. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Golan Heights?

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Based on my personal experience (definitely not W:RS or W:V), the Golan Heights seems like another case of an involuntary park. It is far less densely-populated and developed than the rest of Israel-Palestine, and in many parts of it which are now wilderness or open grazing land, you'll find evidence of previous 20th-century habitation in the form of abandoned and ruined Syrian houses and buildings.

I believe this is probably because its status as part of Israel since '67 has been tenuous and susceptible to (hypothetical) peace negotiations between Israel and Syria, in which case Syria would almost certainly demand the return of all or most of the Golan beyond the 1920-1923 borders… making Israel's government and private sector reluctant to invest in the Golan.

Curious as to whether there are any reliable sources which have written about the Golan as an involuntary park… anyone know any? —Moxfyre (ǝɹʎℲxoɯ | contrib) 16:12, 11 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

As suggested, I added a little section about the Golan Heights as an involuntary park. This article outlines exactly what you describe: due to minimal infrastructure and minefields, the region has become a safe haven for wildlife like wolves, vultures, and gazelles. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/golan-heights-peace-with-wolves Bbreslau (talk) 19:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply