Talk:Inwood, Manhattan

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Take a walk through Inwood Hill Park at http://www.rburns.com/TBG/Inwood/park.htm and see how really beautiful it is.

The writings that accompany the photos will mean more of course if you grew up in Inwood. If you didn't you'll want to visit. Enjoy your walk.

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This description would place The Cloisters in Inwood. The Fort of Fort Tryon Park is Fort Washington, renamed by the British. North of The Cloisters in Fort Tryon Park, the ground drops precipitously to the narrow valley that led once to the ferry landing at Dyckmans street. Inwood Park rises to the north, with the neighborhood of Inwood on the slop to its east. Even the geology divides the two neighborhoods. --Wetman 5 July 2005 23:24 (UTC)

Bennett Avenue

"It extends southward to approximately Fort Tryon Park and Bennett Avenue." Bennett Ave runs North-South, so saying it's the southern boundary really doesn't make much sense. The same is true for Fort Tryon Park -- look at the map. I'm not sure what a better southern boundary would be. 70.18.192.23 (talk) 04:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Southern Border

I have added pictures that I have donated to the public domain and tried to clean up some of the grammar and structure of the article. I have also reset the southern border of Inwood to Dyckman Street/200th St. This is commonly accepted and cited in multiple sources (such as the official city tourist board map at NYC Visit - http://www.nycvisit.com/content/index.cfm?pagePkey=429). There is no documented basis for trying to include areas south of Dyckman as part of Inwood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgthom (talk • contribs) 04:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

That may be true from the city's point of view as indicated by the zip codes but I can tell you that few in the neighborhood perceive it that way. I lived in Washington Heights at 176th and St. Nicholas for five years or so and then moved to Dongan Place and Broadway in the early 1970s. It was a different world and remains one due to the parks, the geography and at that time, the Irish character of the neighborhood. Broadway in this area is a valley between Fort George and Fort Washington, both of which have their own character. The Cloisters and south were always considered part of Washington Heights, as the name suggests. You have to climb up there. Must of us who live a few blocks south of Dyckman shop in Inwood, and not south, except for an occasional foray to the better equipped hardware stores or to the post office. I suppose none of this matters a great deal but New York City is a composite of its neighborhoods all of which have their own character. I grew up in Brooklyn and it was the same there. Tuck (talk) 19:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

White Flight

I have many times now removed the sentences: This phenomenon of white residents leaving an inner-city neighborhood has many plausible causes and it often referred to as white flight. The instance of this phenomenon in Inwood reached its peak by the late 1980s with the crack epidemic afflicting northern Manhattan. This is exaggeration and stereotyping and not necessarily true in the case of Inwood. There was no mortgage redlining, for example, and the movement of the former Irish population was as much a result of simple roadway, suburban and employment changes as much as any desire to flee a neighborhood that was becoming home to Dominican immigrants. There were many reasons as to why these changes happened but to write them off as "white flight" and due to crack is simply not an objective, verifiable statement. If a reference exists showing otherwise, please display it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgthom (talk • contribs) —Preceding comment was added at 04:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I have again removed references to "white flight". It is not necessary to discuss it here because the context does not fit the definition. I will request an IP lock if race-based vandalism continues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgthom (talk • contribs) 13:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Moreover, Inwood is still 41% non-Hispanic white, and I'd guess that with incipient gentrification this figure is likely to rise. While this proportion might be much lower than it used to be, let's not get carried away: we're hardly talking East New York here.86.1.196.156 (talk) 00:16, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

The claim that Inwood is "41% non-Hispanic white" is completely absurd. Please provide reference to this statistic. Inwood is, demographically, overwhelmingly Hispanic. The 2000 census has Inwood with a 74% Hispanic population compared with only 16% white non-hispanics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiro541 (talk • contribs) 07:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Zip Codes and Southern Boundary

A persistent vandal enjoys redefining Inwood to include Fort George - i.e. to extend south to Hillside/Bennett Ave. For the twentieth time, I have removed this reference and the bulk of the 10040 zip code. The previous explanation on this page was also deleted by the same vandal. Simply put, the City of New York neighborhood map is very clear. Inwood starts north of Dyckman St. Period. —Preceding comment was added by Dgthom (talk • contribs) at 00:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Do not throw around accusations of vandalism in genuine content disputes: see Wikipedia:VANDALISM#Warnings. This could be interpreted as a personal attack.FrFintonStack (talk) 22:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for allowing frustration to be interpreted as a personal attack. Suffice it to say, there is a five-year-long content dispute that continues to affect this page regarding the southern boundary of Inwood. I have rewritten the content on the page today to try and be inclusive of both viewpoints, even though one is backed by considerably more factual reference than the other. —Preceding comment was added by Dgthom (talk • contribs) at 09:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Seaman and Cumming

The neighborhood three-way intersection of Seaman Ave and Cumming St is rather popular in Internet circles, simply because the street names are, naturally, a homophone and slang verb for ejaculation, respectively. Is it worth mentioning in the article, obviously done from a very mature and straightforward approach? KirkCliff2 (talk) 16:15, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Inwood, Manhattan

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The Cloisters

An IP editor is insistent on removing information about The Cloisters from this article, on the basis that it is located in a different neighborhood, Washington Heights, Manhattan. The following points need to be made regarding this:

• The Cloisters is located within Fort Tryon Park;
• The boundaries of neighborhoods in New York City are not determined by the city. They are totally conventional, set by usage by newspapers, magazines, books, and the common sense of common people. The city sometimes uses neighborhood names as well, but without setting hard and firm boundaries;
• Therefore it is nonsensical for the IP to say that anything about the boundaries of Inwood is a hard-and-fast fact that everyone agrees on;
• The New York City Department of Parks and Recreation, which owns and maintains Fort Tryon Park, does not identify it as being within any neighborhood [1];
• The Fort Tryon Park Trust does not identify the park as being in either neigborhood [2], [3];
• The Metropolitan Museum of Art, of which The Cloisters is a part, does not identify it as being part of either neighborhood [4];
• The Encyclopedia of New York City does not identify either Fort Tryon Park or The Cloisters as being in either neighborhood;
• Google Maps give boundaries for neighborhoods, and is usally considered a reliable source for this. Google shows that Fort Tryon Park lies neither in Fort Washington or Inwood: the boundaries of both are shown as running along the boundaries of the park;
• The article says "The area's best known cultural attraction is The Cloisters in Fort Tryon Park." (emphasis added) it does not say "The neighborhood's..." The Cloisters in indeed in the area of both Inwood and Washington Heights.

Given these facts there is no justification for removing mention of the The Cloisters from this article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:05, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: I agree. The Cloisters is located in Fort Tryon Park, which most generally agree is between Washington Hts and Inwood. Also, it is mentioned as being a major attraction located near Inwood. I think this is what the IP user is missing. epicgenius (talk) 01:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

The IP is not giving up, having removed it from the article again today. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)