Talk:Isaac Komnenos (son of John II)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: HaEr48 (talk · contribs) 18:43, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I will take a look. HaEr48 (talk) 18:43, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Generally a well-written article with decent writing. Referenced with no sign of original research or copyright violations. Broad enough and not distracted by unnecessary detail. A little bit short but it looks like because not a lot of sources talk about him, and in any case the main aspects of his biography and key events are covered. Appeared neutral, stable, and properly illustrated with images. I have some feedback below for your consideration:

• when his oldest brother Alexios was crowned co-emperor Isaac, along with his other brothers: I suggest a comme between "co-emperor" and "Isaac" to prevent misreading it "co-emperor Isaac" as the regnal name of Alexios

• Good point, rephrased.

• What does "harsh punishment of infractions" mean? Do you mean "harsh punishment or infractions"? Or can you choose a clearer wording?

• I've removed the "infractions" bit, "harsh punishments" should suffice, obviously a punishment is the consequence of an infraction by the one being punished.

• Isaac, who had been sent to accompany Alexios along with Andronikos, accompanied the bodies of his brothers back to Constantinople: it seemed that the three brothers were elsewhere when this happened, can this be mentioned? (e.g. "unexpectedly died during a campaign in XX" or some such)

• Added, and clarified some more what his role was.

• "... Isaac attacked his cousin, the future emperor Andronikos with a sword, the blow was deflected.." I suggest comma between Andronikos and with, and period (instead of comma) between sword and the blow

• Good suggestion, done.

• Both images are appropriate. Commons complain about "You must also include a United States public domain tag" though, probably it can be fixed by replacing {{PD-old}} by something more specific, probably Commons:Template:PD-old-100-expired.

• Fixed.

• The two Varzos reference links seem to lead to an error page

• Yes they do, pity. They were online for many years before.

@Cplakidas: (optional) Can you find a web archive? HaEr48 (talk) 21:57, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

• Fixed, the url was changed but the files are still hosted online.

-- HaEr48 (talk) 06:45, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

• "contemporary Byzantine historians are forced to provide extensive speeches and explanations in an effort to justify the choice of Manuel". Are there any main arguments/explanations that we can mention in the article? HaEr48 (talk) 21:57, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

• It essentially boils down to John supposedly recognizing Manuel as the more capable of the two, and the lack of a strict primogeniture principle in Byzantine succession, although in most cases this was the de facto principle applied. Added a brief mention of this.

• • @Cplakidas: In case you didn't see my last comment. HaEr48 (talk) 06:29, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
    • @HaEr48: Sorry for the delay, I was travelling during the past few days and away from a PC. Any further issues/suggestions? Constantine ✍ 11:33, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
      • @Cplakidas: No worries. Thanks for the response and I hope my feedback has been useful. Passing the article as GA now. Good work on the article. HaEr48 (talk) 20:18, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
        • Thanks for taking the time and for your suggestions :). Cheers, Constantine ✍ 21:45, 1 April 2019 (UTC)