Talk:Isaac Mayer Wise

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Unfortunate events

Excuse me! "unfortunate events?" It was a fistfight between him and the shul president! How can you sugarcoat history like that? What a disgrace to Wikipedia! --Yodamace1 13:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

just a note, this article is copy/pasted from the jewishencyclopedia.com article on him —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.55.17.245 (talk) 21:32, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Evaluation of his works

Hello there. I came tonight to this Wiki article after having read parts of Wise's "History of the Hebrews' second commonwealth". I really was looking for how his works have been outdated or affirmed. Much of what I was reading from that book dealt with Pontius Pilate, John the Baptist, Herod Antipas and Jesus. So, I also went to Wiki articles on these people to see if there was discussion of Rabbi Wise's description of those events. The article on Pilate had a reference to Wise, as I believe also did The Baptist's and Antipas' have a mention. But there was no real evaluation of his views.

For instance: In the history I referred to, Wise asserts that John the Baptist was most certainly killed in Arabia before Herodias arrived in Judah. Thus contradicting the Biblical account of how the Baptist was beheaded for a dance. And also the idea that the Baptist, being imprisoned in Arabia as a political prisoner, could never have sent communications to Jesus. There just seems to be no present day analysis of these accounts put forth by Wise.

If this is not the place to include even some contemporary review of his work, then where is a person to go? Shouldn't there be at least a reference?

Thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sexmoron (talk • contribs) 04:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Views on Freemasonry

Wise has often been quoted by conspiracy theorists as saying that Freemasonry is a Jewish institution from beginning to end. Even Masons themselves have made use of this public statement. This could maybe be added to the article as part of an eventual controversies section. [1] ADM (talk) 12:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

references

This article doesn't have references, or at least very, very few. I tagged it but for some reason the tags were deleted. Maybe place the tags on the main page instead? Sud Ram (talk) 19:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

The majority of the article is taken from the references listed. If you'd like to match up specific paraphrasings, etc. using citations, please feel free. However, the tag itself gives the reader the impression that what is contained is somehow inaccurate or not specifically bona fide historically, which is not the case. Best, A Sniper (talk) 19:49, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

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dead link and WP:OR on slavery

The section on Wise's views of slavery is sourced to a dead link not found elsewhere on that site or archives, and a paragraph of original research from the WP:PRIMARY source, Wise's article published in 1864. This subject is clearly interesting if sourceable but the current contents are a good illustration of why WP:NOR is a policy. It's hard to tell from what is written whether Wise was endorsing American slavery as it existed, or making some adjacent points, and whether the criticism he is said to have received occurred in his lifetime. Better sources needed. Sesquivalent (talk) 18:41, 2 September 2021 (UTC)