Talk:Isham Park

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As is the case with many Manhattan parks, the squirrel population density is high here.Mjnyc (talk) 12:49, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't the sentence beginning, "Its western border once extended to the Harlem River but after the development…" read "Hudson River"?Vzeebjtf (talk) 16:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

The reference to removal of the WW1 cannon in 1943 and broken promise to replace is correct, as I was a four year old who cried seeing a favorite play site taken away and heard one of the workmen tell us of its replacement after the war. Collapse of the cannon's former platform is also correct although I've no idea when that happened. Thomas Wm. Hamilton 4897 Tomhamilton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:6A00:32DA:CC0E:D108:77C1:20AF (talk) 19:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

MOS:BLOCKQUOTE

Comments are related to the edit summary and my talk page.

1. Per MOS:BLOCKQUOTE, Format a long quote (more than about 40 words or a few hundred characters, or consisting of more than one paragraph, regardless of length) as a block quotation
2. Per instructions at {{bots}}, Avoid using the template as a blunt instrument
3. Bots will not change words in blockquote tags and templates
4. "I've had no problems with any other bot." Really? How many times have you yelled at other bot owners? Magioladitis' and you have been fighting since before 2010. How many times have you yelled at him to follow rules? I arrived 14 hours after you added the text. Of course, nobody else arrived. Other bot owners do the same exact thing, so you still will have problems.
5. "No, I think we'll keep it the way I wrote it." Per WP:OWNERSHIP An editor reverts a change simply because the editor finds it "unnecessary" without claiming that the change is detrimental.
6. "Please take responsibility for the errors made by YOUR bot." I am and the bot is behaving as it is supposed to.

My bot is not broken, along with all the other bots that do the exact same thing. Going against MOS, going against template instructions, going against how bots do not change things from 15th -> 15, and showing nobody else can edit anything you do. I'm following the rules. You tell people to follow rules, including try to have editors blocked when they don't follow them, hmmm...... Bgwhite (talk) 08:23, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

No other bot than your has done this. The use of blockquote is discretionary, not mandatory, and your bot should learn to deal with the real world of WIkiediting. Your propensity for blaming the victim has popped up numerous times. Please take responsibility for edits you make through your bot, and stop blaming others for problems which are yours. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:02, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

You are supposed to talk about the problem, all you do is ad hominem attacks. Stop your personal attacks.

Bot is running like it should, just like the other bots behave. No other bots have arrived on the page, so you cannot say only my bot does this. Other bots and my bot have been doing this for years. You just don't know about "other" bots.

The "real world" way is to use blockquote or {{not a typo}}. Blockquote is also the correct way to code it via HTML. The real world uses blockquote.

You've yet to refute MOS arguments and instructions on the bot page. MOS is not discretionary.

Our last encounter was over accessibility guidelines. Then you blamed my bot and me. Then you said MOS doesn't matter. You also called me a MOS Nazi.

So far, your argument is, "I don't wanna" and hurl attacks. Bgwhite (talk) 02:05, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

No, my argument is that MOS is not mandatory, it is a simply a guideline, and you, as an admin, should know that and follow ArbCom's proscription against edit-warring to enforce MOS. The words in question are now enclosed between quotation marks (as I had neglected to do before) and your bot should not change the wording of a direct quote, no matter how it is delineated, with quote marks or by way of the use of bquote, cquote or any other template.

I think we're done here, unless you'd like to argue that your bot should be allowed to change the wording of a direct quote to bring it into line with Wikistyle. Beyond My Ken (talk)

Oh, BTW, I wanted to make sure that you were aware that nominations for ArbCom are open. With your abilities, I really think you should consider running. Have a good day. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:40, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Beyond My Ken MOS is a guideline to be followed unless there isn't a way around it. It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply. Note, it says attempt and common sense. Common sense because it brings it up to proper HTML and for ALL bots not to touch anything inside. Blockquote doesn't harm or change anything on presentation. I'm trying to do the proper thing and stop ALL bots from causing the problem. You've yet to say anything on how blockquote harms anything. You've yet to have any argument except I don't wanna. Per WP:OWNBEHAVIOR, An editor reverts a change simply because the editor finds it "unnecessary" without claiming that the change is detrimental. Stop your ownership. Stop your attacks. Bgwhite (talk) 05:42, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Enjoy your life. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:46, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Too much fighting and not enough problem-solving. I have added the {{notatypo}} template to protect this verbatim quotation from edits by well-meaning editors using AWB and other tools that adjust dates to match MOS. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2016 (UTC)