Talk:Islamism in the United Kingdom
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Islam and Islamism
editI know there is no clean-cut distinction between Islam and Islamism, but the practice on Wikipedia seems to be to delegate political or societal issues with Islam under the header of "Islamism", while Islam in the United Kingdom is mostly concerned with documenting demographic data. Interestingly, these articles always get "terrorism" sections, but anything between anti-Muslim discrimination and all out terrorism tends to be neglected. A well-developed article would attempt to document the full spectrum of radicalization, there are a lot of steps between purely "cultural" or nostalgic emigrant Islam to blood-thirsty radicalism. Unfortunately, political topics can almost never be treated calmly on Wikipedia, and it's always either about evil anti-Muslim discrimination, or evil terrorists, but almost never about the many shades of grey in between. --dab (𒁳) 13:23, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- The distinction is that Islam is a religion whilst Islamism is a political version of the religion. A practicing Muslim can hold different political beliefs to Islamism. You are confusing extremists with the religion as a whole --Drowninginlimbo (talk) 20:06, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
- Who said that we can decide whether the religion itself is extremist or not? How we can agree that "Islamism" is not the core concept of "Islam"? Tell me how these two things are actually different. If some muslim don't prefer islamism, does it means that Islamism is not condoned by other muslims? OccultZone (Talk) 19:35, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Who said .... ? The best and broadest WP:RS do, or we don't, simple as that. At present there are numerous examples of 'Islamic' being treated as 'Islamist'. Pincrete (talk) 17:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Who said that we can decide whether the religion itself is extremist or not? How we can agree that "Islamism" is not the core concept of "Islam"? Tell me how these two things are actually different. If some muslim don't prefer islamism, does it means that Islamism is not condoned by other muslims? OccultZone (Talk) 19:35, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
"28% of British Muslims "hoped that Britain would one day become a fundamentalist Islamic state"
editThis claim is sourced from a CBS news article which itself gives no academic source for this data. Iamtidal (talk) 19:41, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
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editIslamism in the United Kingdom → Islamic extremism in the United Kingdom –
The article titles should be in conformity with other wikipedia pages. Jihadist extremism in the United States Islamism in the United Kingdom Islamism in the Gaza Strip Islamism and Islamic terrorism in the Balkans should either be changed or this article title should be changed. --Vimaljoseph34260 (talk) 07:18, 28 March 2019 (UTC)