Talk:Israel Museum

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Geni in topic Iret-hor-iru
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regarding the revert (15:36, 27 February 2007): This revert doesn't comply with the official policy on the English Wikipedia (If you find a copyright infringement). The summary of the revert ("revert to june 10, 2006 (07:45 [utc]) version due to subsequent copyright violations") doesn't provide any reference to proof the copyright infringement. A staff member of the Israel Museum has been informed by email. --ThT 11:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

The first two paragraphs were a carbon copy of this page from the Israel Museum. For future reference, it would be best to inform the relevant editor if you want some more information about the source of the copyright violation, especially since it's quite clear no one was following this article. -- tariqabjotu 16:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)Reply


Dora Gad

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It would be nice to get some information about the designers of the campus in here.--Sreifa (talk) 10:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

References

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I deleted the recent addition by User:London000 because various references were erased, please re-add carefully in the future...Modernist (talk) 21:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Changes to Introduction

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Previously, the first sentence of the second paragraph read "Among the unique objects on display is the Venus of Berekhat Ram a carved female figurine considered the oldest artwork in the world;[citation needed] the interior of a 1736 Zedek ve Shalom synagogue from Suriname; necklaces worn by Jewish brides in Yemen; a mosaic Islamic prayer niche from 17th-century Persia; and a nail attesting to the practice of crucifixion in Jesus’ time.[2]". I removed the statement "a carved female figurine considered the oldest artwork in the world," as I feel that it is entirely disingenuous on top of the fact that it lacks any citation whatsoever. The majority of the article on the Venus of Berekhat Ram is spent discussing the fact that there is almost no consensus whether this was even carved by a human, let alone intended to be art. I have chosen to simply remove the phrase for the time being, but if somebody has a better way to write this that manages to make that uncertainty apparent then that would be good as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.30.113.184 (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Location

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This museum is located in Jerusalem, not in Israel. No part of Jerusalem is internationally recognized as part of Israel. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 04:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

This article is not about the international recognition of Jerusalem. The Israel Museum is pretty clearly in Israel - as the article says (emphasis mine): "The Israel Museum was established in 1965 as Israel's foremost cultural institution and one of the world’s leading encyclopedic museums. It is situated on a hill in the Givat Ram neighborhood of Jerusalem, adjacent to the Bible Lands Museum, the Knesset, the Israeli Supreme Court, and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. " - this is clearly an Israeli Institution, built on Israeli controlled land next to obvious Israeli institutions. If you search for "Israeli museums," you can find the Israel Museum on a number of results, including TimeOut, TripAdvisor, and even CNN. Rami R 16:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Already told you before that the name doesn't mean anything, Canada Park is not located in Canada, same thing here. Israeli museums or institutions built on occupied land doesn't mean that the land belongs to Israel. Just because you found a couple of US sites following the Israeli pov doesn't mean that is reality. You have to show reliable sources showing that Jerusalem is internationally recognized as part of Israel.--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 05:02, 14 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Actually, the onus of proof is on you - you're the one who wants to change the article. I, on the other hand, have actually presented reliable sources showing that the Israel Museum is in Israel. You want to dispute the reliability of these? Take it to WP:RSN. Rami R 06:23, 14 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
"Israeli sovereignty over Jerusalem has never been recognised internationally" BBC."Israeli control in west Jerusalem since 1948 was illegal and most states have not recognized its sovereignty there"[1] "Determines that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which have altered or purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, and in particular the recent "basic law" on Jerusalem, are null and void and must be rescinded forthwith;" UNSCR 478. So your sources is only following an Israeli/minority pov. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 10:57, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Again, you insist on making this article about something it is not. None of your sources mention the Israel Museum, and thus none can be considered relevant. Show me a source stating that the Israel Museum is not in Israel. Otherwise this is just original research. Rami R 11:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
This museum is in Jerusalem and the sources are about Jerusalem, so they apply. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 10:53, 27 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
WP:SYNTH. Rami R 11:50, 27 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Its not synth, the reliable sources I provided prove that the claim that this museum is in Israel is false. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 03:40, 4 July 2020 (UTC)Reply


Iret-hor-iru

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I'd like to mention that Iret-hor-iru is in the museum. However all the articles I can find are 8 years old and he was presumably on loan from the Pontifical Biblical Institute:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-only-mummy-gets-afterlife-spotlight-at-israel-museum/

Anyone got anything showing he is still there?©Geni (talk) 17:42, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

After further poking around it looks like it was a temporary thing.©Geni (talk) 19:54, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply