Talk:Israel Salanter

Jewish Encyclopedia article

Here I am pasting the text of the article on R' Yisroel Salanter from the PD 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia. - CrazyRussian talk/email 12:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Russian rabbi; born at Zhagory at the beginning of the nineteenth century; died at Königsberg, Prussia, Feb. 2, 1883. He received his first training from his father, Zeeb Wolf, who was rabbi at Zhagory. After his marriage Lipkin settled at Salaty, where he continued his studies under Rabbi Hirsch Broda and Rabbi Joseph Zundel (died in Jerusalem 1866). Zundel exerted a deep influence on the development of Lipkin's character; and the latter showed his appreciationof his teacher by referring to him in the preface to his periodical "Tebunah" as the light which he followed all his days.

In 1842 Lipkin was called to Wilna as head of the yeshibah Tomeke Torah. During his incumbency he established a new yeshibah at Zarechye, a suburb of Wilna, where he lectured for about three years.

Lipkin's great service lay in his insistence on the practical application of the moral teachings of Judaism and in his emphasis of the necessity of manual labor on the part of the Jews. He established societies for the study of religious ethics, with but little regard for worldly affairs; and at his suggestion the works on religious ethics of Moses Ḥayyim Luzzatto, Mendel Lefin, and Solomon ibn Gabirol were reprinted at Wilna.

When, in 1848, the Russian government established the rabbinical school at Wilna, Lipkin declined an invitation to become instructor in Talmud and rabbinical law. He settled in Kovno and established a yeshibah, connected with the bet ha-midrash of Hirsch Naviazsky, of which he retained charge until 1857, when failing health compelled him to remove to Germany for medical treatment. He remained in the house of the philanthropists, the Hirsch brothers of Halberstadt, until his health improved, and then (in 1861) began the publication of the Hebrew monthly "Tebunah," devoted to rabbinical law and religious ethics. On account of his failing health this periodical was discontinued at the end of a year, and Lipkin again lived for a time the life of a wanderer, visiting yeshibot and offering advice to teachers and students wherever his assistance was sought. Toward the end of his life Lipkin was called to Paris to organize a community among the Russian immigrants, and he remained there for two years.

Lipkin was a singular combination of the ultra-Orthodox Jew and the man of the world, particularly in regard to the duties of citizenship. He preached love for the fatherland and respect for the laws of the country. When the ukase making military service universally obligatory appeared, Lipkin wrote an appeal to the rabbis and community leaders urging them to keep lists of recruits so as to leave no pretext for the contention that the Jews shirked such service. He was considered one of the most eminent Orthodox rabbis of the nineteenth century because of his broad Talmudic scholarship, his deep piety, and his personal influence for good; and he was probably the only rabbi of his time that exerted a wide influence on his fellow rabbis and on the Jewish communities of Russia. His disciples collected and published some of his sayings, commentaries, and sermons in "Eben Yisrael" (Warsaw, 1853) and in "'Eẓ Peri" (Wilna, 1880).

Bibliography: Fuenn, Keneset Yisrael, p. 697, Warsaw, 1886; H. M. Steinschneider, 'Ir Wilna, p. 128; Feldberg, in Ḳedosh Yisrael, Wilna, 1884.

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Name change

BS"D

He was Yisroel Salanter, not Yisrael. Gut Voch --Shaul avrom 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Gut Voch. I don't think we can be too picky about the names. There is a tremendous variety of spellings in Wikipedia Jewish biographies. For example, all of the biographical selections imported from the Jewish Encyclopedia use Anglicized names (i.e., Jacob, Ezekiel, etc., which has good points and bad points). The best we can do, I think, is just to add enough Redirects so that people can find the right page when they search under the spelling that they expect. We can then add important variant spellings in the intro, like many articles already have. My $0.02.

Dfass 04:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

See input by CRZ and myself on Wikipedia Talk: Hebrew.
--Shaul avrom 13:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The compromise position there says that "names to be rendered either in the accepted English spelling if extant (Maimonides)." I think that "Israel Salanter," rather than "Yisrael" or "Yisroel," is the widely accepted English spelling. "Israel Salanter" certainly draws many more Google hits than the other spellings. Ravyehoshuadavid (talk) 13:18, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

No Known Picture

I removed the needs-photo = yes since there is seemingly no known picture. http://www.yasharbooks.com/JewishPressSalanter.html KosherJava (talk) 17:10, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Mixup

Lo naim lehagid but, Somebody moved the story of Cholera in Jerusalem with Rabbi Shmuel Salant by mistake to Vilna with Rabbi Yisroel Salanter.

But then checking it out on the web, I find no trace to either source...

Oh well פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 03:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

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Requested move 20 June 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed per consensus in this discussion. (non-admin closure) –Ammarpad (talk) 07:33, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

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Yisroel Salanter → Israel Salanter – "Israel Salanter" or "Yisrael Salanter" are far more common spellings in English, as can be seen from these ngram results: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Yisroel+Salanter%2CIsrael+Salanter%2CYisrael+Salanter&year_start=1900&year_end=2018&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CYisroel%20Salanter%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CIsrael%20Salanter%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CYisrael%20Salanter%3B%2Cc0. On Google Scholar, Israel Salanter receives 927 hits (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=israel+salanter), Yisrael Salanter receives 384 (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=yisrael+salanter), and Yisroel Salanter only 130 (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=yisroel+salanter) JoeMyTorah (talk) 14:36, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose עם ישראל חי (talk) 16:32, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
• Support per the data in the proposal. I also note that the "oppose" (without a reason") comes from an editor named Yisroel, perhaps explaining that !vote. Dekimasuよ! 01:38, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
• Support. I had first suggested this many years ago and am glad to see it happening. Ravyehoshuadavid (talk) 14:13, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
• I would support the change to Yisrael עם ישראל חי (talk) 14:41, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

• Please consider explaining the reasons for your position. Dekimasuよ! 06:12, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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