Talk:Istanbul (electoral districts)

Requested move 18 May 2016

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move article. (non-admin closure) Mdann52 (talk) 20:27, 6 June 2016 (UTC) Mdann52 (talk) 20:27, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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• İstanbul (electoral districts) → Politics of İstanbul or Politics of İstanbul Province
• Ankara (electoral districts) → Politics of Ankara or Politics of Ankara Province
• İzmir (electoral districts) → Politics of İzmir or Politics of İzmir Province

– Consider these articles were confined to describing the electoral districts of these three major cities. Still, unless they focussed on comprehensive coverage of the evolution of the districts (history, demographics, geography), the title wouldn't be a good match, and the topic not overly relevant, given the state of our overall coverage of Turkish politics. But in fact, these articles don't present much more than electoral results of the respective provinces, regardless of electoral districts which don't even exist in the context of presidential election(s).
What we should do instead is expanding our picture to the whole political setting in these provinces, including local and provincial elections, local government, sociopolitical background, appointed governors, and the overall institutional setting, similar to Politics of Ontario or Politics of California. The individual constituency articles would remain unchanged, and this would be a kickstarter to further expand our coverage on politics of the remaining provinces.
Also note that the unusual institutional setting of Turkish Metropolitan municipalities renders a disambiguation between city and province both unnecessary, and at least at this point, unhelpful. --PanchoS (talk) 11:07, 18 May 2016 (UTC) -- Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:22, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

• Comment I think consideration needs to be given to whether these articles are needed at all. If we do keep them, then I would support the move, but personally I think deletion would be better. Number 57 11:52, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Number 57: My request is about renaming and expanding scope, so I'm sorry your comment is out of scope. I probably should have gone ahead with it instead of asking for an explicit consensus. We have a bunch of articles on Category:Politics by city, so there's no reason to expect these three major cities of Turkey to be a less interesting and relevant topic than, say, Politics of Marshall, Texas or Politics of Toowoomba, Queensland. Feel free to nominate the three articles for deletion, though, if you still feel they're "not needed" after being expanded in scope. --PanchoS (talk) 13:12, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose - this isn't an article about the politics of Istanbul, it is a very specific article treating the individual electoral districts in Istanbul as one block, sort of an intermediate article between Electoral system of Turkey at a high level and İstanbul (1st electoral district) etc. at a low level. As such I agree with Number 57 that this article isn't really required and should probably be deleted. Now if you did want a "politics of Istanbul" article, that would cover more city level politics, mayors and so on, then that would be a new article. You could go ahead and start one, although again, whether it's notable I have no idea. But that isn't this.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:52, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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