Talk:Istifan al-Duwayhi

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This page must be edited to Estephan El Douaihy (the family spelling is wrong.) 19:07, 12 November 2007 217.139.238.34 (talk) .

Romanization of ESŢFĀN AL-DWAYHĪ - request by family

Romanization of Arabic names is a tough subject. Most references to our great Patriarch would ignore the Al or El to the benefit of the contracted form without Al Atta'rif. The association for the Beatification of our Patriarch has also adopted the contracted form. Anyhow, if a wikipedia user type Estephan El Douaihy in the search box, he will find the page as a first choice. We may also create a Redirection page, but it is cumbersome. Personally, I prefer to put the variants in the text. Now that a page exists on Wikipedia, let's enrich it. Thanks to all.youcroft 16:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

but in the search engines on google it apears el douaihi .. it would be great if u can fix it to be El Douaihy as it is. thx (the spelling is very important, in our family we have had a big problem and debate lately and as u notice douaihy.net and douaihy.org the right spelling is El Douaihy. by putting the wrong spelling ur encouraging few to use doueihy or whatever. thanks for understanding—Preceding unsigned comment added by Douaihy (talk • contribs) 21:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

1. This is an encyclopedia article, not a family blog.
2. I don't see any problem with using "al-Duwayhi" since the spelling you claim is that of the Italian transliteration which is mentioned in the lead. But creating a hybrid transliteration is nonsensical and unscientific.
3. There are more results for "al-Duwayhi" on Google Books.

ARBN19 (talk) 10:32, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Undiscussed move 2012, revert Jan 2013

• 12:23, 30 December 2012 ARBN19 (talk | contribs) m . . (1,739 bytes) (0) . . (ARBN19 moved page Talk:Estephan El Douaihy to Talk:Istifan al-Duwayhi) (undo | thank)
• (cur | prev) 10:42, 25 January 2013 Douaihy (talk | contribs) . . (33 bytes) (+33) . . (Douaihy moved page Istifan al-Duwayhi to Estephan El Douaihy over redirect) (thank)

Requested move 10 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: Move to Istifan al-Duwayhi. While the picture is far from clear, it's apparent that neither the current title nor the one originally proposed are in use, while this suggestive alternative is at least in use, if not the most common. Cúchullain ^t/c 14:23, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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Estephan El Douaihy → Estephan El-Douaihy – Only the second spelling showed up among results when searching for the first. 90.90.117.170 (talk) 11:52, 10 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:38, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Zawl 11:56, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose GBOOKS patriarch "1630 1704" maronite produces various spellings but neither current title nor proposed target are among them. Istifan al-Duwayhi Isṭifān al-Duwayhī Stephen ad Duwaihi Stephan ad-Duwaihi In ictu oculi (talk) 15:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose – I agree that more research is needed; the move rationale appears to be from a single book hit. Dicklyon (talk) 01:42, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
• move to Istifan al-Duwayhi. As IIO says above, the GBOOKS link he quotes shows myriad different variants on the spelling, it seems like there is genuinely no single version that predominates in English. As noted though, the current title did not feature, and the "Istifan al-Duwayhi" version (particularly that spelling of the last name) did seem slightly in the lead.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:30, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 29 April 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved buidhe 22:44, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

The correct spelling of the subject of the article is Estephan El Douaihy and not Istifan al-Duwayhi. You should reverse the move. All media is using the correct spelling "Estephan El Douaihy". Lina Du Liban (talk) 03:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

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Istifan Al-Duwayhi → Istifan al-Duwayhi – The Arabic definite article is usually written in lowercase when attached (al-), and in uppercase when not (El) 92.184.117.135 (talk) 14:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. Jerm (talk) 18:42, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

  That formmat is for Modern Standard Arabic. As Lebanese, I can assure you, the spelling of the name in Roman letter is Estephan El Douaihy. See articles below:

  https://aleteia.org/2024/08/03/lebanon-divine-grace-in-difficult-times-at-other-worldly-beatification-photos

  https://catholicherald.co.uk/feature-an-encounter-with-most-reverend-abbot-mahfouz-and-the-resilience-and-enigmatic-spirituality-of-maronite-catholics/

  https://www.lbcgroup.tv/watch/70985/special-episode-beatification-of-estephan-el-douaihy/en

  https://maronite.org.au/news/special-mass-celebrates-patriarch-estephan-el-douaihy-on-the-feast-of-our-lady-of-lebanon/ Lina Du Liban (talk) 18:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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