Talk:Isuzu MU
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Relation to GM Vehicles?
editIs the Rodeo related to the Chevy Blazer/Oldsmobile Bravada/GMC Jimmy? It sure looks like it is. Bkissin 00:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
- The Rodeo is not related to the Blazer/Bravada/Jimmy. 68.162.123.44 22:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Vauxhall Frontera
editA search for Vauxhall Frontera takes you to this Isuzu Rodeo article.
Yet the Frontera is not mentioned at all in this article. pjb007 20:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- the vauxhall is related to the MU —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.1.147.49 (talk) 16:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- Vauxhall Frontera is the UK market name for the Isuzu Rodeo. OSX (talk • contributions) 03:05, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Isuzu Wizard
editThe diesel-engined Wizard was JDM only (except for a handful of "parallel imports" in New Zealand i.e. sold new at Holden dealers alongside petrol-engined Holden Fronteras). There is a separate "Aero" model with a body kit (again, JDM only) sold in both petrol and diesel. This is never listed in the specification links and indeed, there is an error in these specs in that the 1998 and on cars are listed as having drum brakes on the rear when they have discs, or at least, mine does, just like the MU it replaced. This may be due to the high specification of the Aero models, or unique to them, if the basic models have drums.
The 4JX1 diesel engined Wizard shared the same engine as the bigger BigHorn (Jackaroo etc) except non-intercooled, losing around 11kW in the process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.178.63.3 (talk • contribs) 07:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Picture problem
editThe picture listed as Gen 1 is not a Gen 1. BabuBhatt 16:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- It is, though from that angle they do look similar - not the best photo if you'd ask me. Bravada, talk - 17:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- If that is true, the articles need to be split back to an Isuzu Rodeo article. The picture with Gen 1 on the article is not a Gen 1 Rodeo/Passport as sold in the United States. BabuBhatt 16:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't understand why. If only the second-generation MU/Wizard were sold in the US as the Rodeo/Passport, it should be noted so in the article. No reason for splitting. Bravada, talk - 17:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- Someone eliminated the Rodeo article and put the information here. Now the picture under Gen 1 ''is not'' the vehicle sold as a Rodeo.Passport in ther United States. Can ''anyone'' else verify this? BabuBhatt 17:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- It is, it just had a slightly different front end in Europe. Still, we could use a better picture, as the standard is to provide front 3/4s and not a head-on as seen here. Bravada, talk - 19:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- OK, that makes more sense. Thanks. BabuBhatt 19:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- The vehicle in the picture isn't even an Isuzu but an Opel Frontera.--84.142.143.38 16:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Amigo-MU / Rodeo etc. split needed
editThough many of the Isuzu SUVs from the early 90's shared similar features, the Amigo/MU should have it's own page. Vehicles like the Rodeo were renamed and licensed to other manufacturers but the Amigo was solely an Isuzu offering. This article would also be better severed by detailing the 2 generations of the Amigo and then referencing the Rodeo as related but separate SUV. I am a 1st Gen. Amigo owner. I'd like to help out here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keywerk (talk • contribs) 17:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC) Keywerk (talk | contribs)
- I furthermore think the Rodeo should be its own page, as evidenced by the pictures that say "First generation" and do not represent the first generation of the Rodeo as sold in the United States. BabuBhatt 17:47, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- No split needed here, just a good expansion of the article to cover all bases. Currently it's in shambles. European Opel/Vauxhall and American Rodeo first generations indeed had different front ends, but that's not a reason to split the article and tell the same story two times. Almost all Isuzu models were rebadged and sold by other manufacturers, I do not see the point here. Bravada, talk - 02:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- This page still does not contain a Gen 1 (amigo) picture. I can take a few pictures of mine however it is no longer stock. I've added much larger tires and a 2" lift and mine has an aftermarket hard top. There is a fairly stock Gen 1 Amigo down the street from where I live that I could take a picture of. Keywerk 02:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
"Mysterious Utility"
editI once heard it discussed on the radio - how it was called the "Mysterious Utility Wizard". Indeed, I saw on the B-pillar of one that it said "Mysterious Utility" below the letters MU. -Not Diablo 07:08, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, on the MUs I've seen (never seen a Wizard), it says Mysterious Utility where you said, and sometimes on the spare tyre cover as well. It is not suprising that they changed the name in Europe and other markets! --Zilog Jones 21:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
MU vs. MU Wizard
editWhat is the difference between the normal Isuzu MU and the MU Wizard, and why is this article apparently only discussing the Wizard and derivatives? this and other sites suggest they are different model lines. From all I can see the Wizard is just the 5 door version of the MU - is that it? I have seen many Japanese import Isuzu MUs here in Ireland (mostly early '90s models), and they look very similar to the Opel Frontera, however I have never seen an MU Wizard. --Zilog Jones 21:04, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- For the the first generation there was the MU (three-door) and MU Wizard (five-door). This continued for the second generation, except the five-door dropped the "MU" prefix. OSX (talk • contributions) 03:05, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
European engines, infobox
editSince the Vauxhall/Opel Frontera followed such a different pattern of development, including a nearly completely different engine lineup, I suggest that it receive its own infobox. Comments? ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 19:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- How about a Europe/North America powertrains table like used at Opel Antara? I had the same issue there. OSX (talk • contributions) 09:06, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's probably the most obvious decision - it also allows for clarifying things that are ard to fit into 250px of width... ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 16:57, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Redirecting the Holden Frontera Page to Isuzu Wizard
editI redirected the Holden Frontera page to Isuzu Wizard because a rebadged version of another car does not need its own page when all it has is two lines of information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.16.35 (talk • contribs) 03:58, 16 August 2013
- I agree that was a good move, thanks. OSX (talk • contributions) 04:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Low or medium?
editI am fairly certain that the Isuzu Rodeo in any of its forms is not "extremely notable, but has not achieved international notability, or is only notable within a particular continent." It's an SUV; and not a particularly distinguished one. I have not yet changed it from High because I am not sure whether it would be Mid (Subject is only notable within its particular field or subject and has achieved notability in a particular place or area) or Low (Subject is not particularly notable or significant even within its field of study. It may only be included to cover a specific part of a notable article). Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 01:05, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
- I changed it to low, as it only lasted for two generations but if someone thinks it is worth "mid" then I would not object to it being changed accordingly. OSX (talk • contributions) 03:05, 18 January 2015 (UTC)