Talk:Iwo Jima/Archive 2

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Archive 1Archive 2

Eruption history?

As far as I know, there has been no big eruption or no record about it. This is the recent record in Japanese. Oda Mari (talk) 17:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Iwo Jima 'Map'?

The map in the info-box can hardly be considered a map of Iwo Jima with only a 'spec' stuck out there in the middle of the ocean to represent it. You can't even discern its shape. What we have really is a map of Japan and it sort of looks like something a child colored in a coloring book. Is this the best we can do? The blurry sat' photo doesn't do it much justice either. WP needs a map task force, as maps of this 'quality' too often appear in articles. btw. Before I made this criticism I looked through WP to see if there is anything else. The internet has an assortment of maps. I found a decent one but its a military aviation map with all sorts of 'aviation stuff' inscribed over it. Will upload it after I render its sharpness and color tone. Hope it works. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:30, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Confusing use of "home islands"

The first time the term appears in the article, it implies Iwo Jima isn't one of the home islands, and the second time it appears, it clearly means that it is. Can someone with knowledge of the subject clarify/fix whichever is wrong thanks. 121.74.77.166 (talk) 19:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Name, again

  • This has been a subject of discussion already, but I suggest that the article name should be changed to "Iwo To". Even in the United States, not the official name is "Iwo To" despite the island is still widely known with its old name of Iwo Jima. See description in Japanese article with citation.

アメリカの資料においても、一部はこの変更に追従して「Iwo To(イオートー)」と改められており、JTWCの台風進路予想図などはその一例である。一方、「Iwo Jima(イオージマ)」は第二次世界大戦中最大の激戦だった記念地としてアメリカでも特に有名であるため、「Iwo Jima」の名称に特別な感情をもつ者もアメリカ海兵隊の関係者を中心に多くおり、退役軍人組織のひとつである「ベテランズ・オブ・フォーリン・ウォーズ」はこの変更に不快感を示した。改名反対の声明を出した団体もあるという。--79.238.118.118 (talk) 20:20, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Unedited Google translation of the Japanese text: "In the materials of America, has been renamed "Iwo To (Ioto)" and to follow the change this part, such as typhoons course of JTWC forecast map is one example. On the other hand, for the "Iwo Jima (Iojima)" is especially famous in the United States as a memorial ground was a fierce battle during the Second World War up to, those who have a special feeling in the name of "Iwo Jima" is also in the United States Marine Corps the cage around the many stakeholders, and showed discomfort to this change, which is one of the veterans organization, "veterans of foreign Wars". That there is also a group that issued a statement of opposition renamed." Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

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PRE-WW2 info

This article is lacking in the pre-WW2 history section. There were over 1,000 civilians living on the island pre-WW2, we need more info on those residents and how they were expelled post-WW2.

The history is very unclear. Were there people living there prior to the 16th century? Or was it populated by the Japanese after it was discovered by Europeans? Did the Japanese not know it was there prior to it being discovered by Europeans?141.156.187.235 (talk) 14:29, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

History

When and how did Japan gain control of Iwo Jima? Is there any significant historical events on the island prior to WWII? LordAmeth 10:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I also would like to see more information about Iwo Jima pre- and post-WWII. When was it first inhabited? By whom? Were there "natives" like on other Pacific islands, or was it only inhabited during industrial-era? How about its significance during WWII? When was it decided that Iwo Jima was important? I just saw a TV show saying it became important to the US during the approach to Japan as an emergency landing site for US bombers en route to Japan, and to allow fighters to escort them. Anyone have more details about this? --greenmoss 03:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was wondering about the 'ex-Islanders' bit too. From when till when was the island inhabited? 84.177.9.174 20:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC) (Hah, pretty silly of me to sign without loging in first. Lewis Trondheim 20:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC))

It was June 1889 the island was first inhabited. And the island officially became Japanese territory on September 9th 1891. You can read the island history on Ogasawara Village homepage. http://www.vill.ogasawara.tokyo.jp/outline/iou/index.html --Oda Mari 18:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I deleted misinformation in pre-war history section. Hope you don't mind.Oda Mari 04:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

But the information you deleted is not necessarily incongruent with that presented on the web page you cite, so I’m not sure that deleting it is appropriate. How about putting the information back and fixing its shortcomings instead? Jim_Lockhart 05:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
First of all, I don't trust my English writing. Did you know there was a longer history section before? And I think that's not bad. More accurate than my deleted information. Isn't it better to put that one back? If it's possible. Please take a look at the page history 21:28, 30 April 2006. I don't know why but it was deleted on 3 May 2006. Oda Mari 14:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
If someone doesn’t have a look and revive the older history section, I will as soon as I have some time; meanwhile, don’t worry about your English writing. As long as it’s understandable, someone will rewrite it—and probably ask questions about ambiguous spots (or at least tag them). That's an opportunity for you to see how copy editing works and to get get accustomed to it. Best regards, Jim_Lockhart 16:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your encouraging words. I'll try when I have some time. I'm not that 暇 right now. Besides I've been here for a couple of months and there's still a lot to learn. I'm doing by 習うより慣れろ way,though. I've noticed now that an IP address user pointed out it in the Lost Information section here. Btw, is my English understandable enough? Oda Mari 17:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I’ve found the material you mention and moved it here. It looks like a fair translation of the Japanese Wikipedia article but needs to be copyeditted and otherwise cleaned up. I suggest working on it on this subpage, then introducing it into the article when doing so would not be disruptive. Perhaps you or someone could also check the sources at the bottom of the main article (these have not changed) for in-line citations. Best regards, Jim_Lockhart 14:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm going to work on it. Little by little though.Oda Mari 14:35, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

The reference for the sensationalistic paragraph about the taking of heads/skulls as souvenirs is not complete/valid. I'm not disputing the claim, but sensationalistic claims should definitely have complete, reliable references. In the absence of a valid reference, the paragraph should be removed. 42GeoCPU (talk) 22:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I came to the Wikipedia entry on Iwo Jima specifically to find out how and why the Japanese had pre-WWII possession of the island. I'm disappointed by the absence of information. 222.152.169.218 (talk) 05:15, 26 September 2019 (UTC)Martyn