Talk:Jabal Amil

POV

I found 4 instances of clear-cut POV editing in the first few paragraphs. Please see WP:MOS for formatting. Here are some tips:

• Don't use weasel words.
• Verify your claims. See WP:CITE.
• Don't just list 30 names in a paragraph. It is tremendously unnecessary clutter.
• Consider the Israeli point of view. The way you present the Lebanese makes it clear that you are against the Israelis. Nobody here cares to hear political fluff. If you want to include sections about wars with Israel and the like, it might do you well to find an Israel Wikiproject and coordinate with them what should be inserted just as they should coordinate with you what should be inserted. It is standard Wikipedia policy, and for now, I'm removing the sections on Israel as it is to potent to cause edit wars.

And so on. I'll put this page on my watchlist. JHMM13  18:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Image

I have removed this image as it serves no encyclopedic function. It appears to be a map of southern Lebanon (my best guess) with no labels or anything that would make it encyclopedic. As an outsider, I have no idea what its purpose in the article is. JHMM13  18:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Article needs to be organized!

or seperated into Jabal Amil in Shia tradition. And the other Jabal Amel.--Skatewalk 10:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Are Sidon and Tyre really in Jabal Amel?

This article says Sidon and Tyre are in Jabal Amel. Seems odd. Clearly they are not in the “pure” definition of the region, which is the highlands south of the Litani. Presumably the term is also used as a synonym for “Southern Lebanon”; this usage should be clearly delineated. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:50, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

@Oncenawhile: The article is poorly sourced and probably needs a start-from-scratch revamp. Need to research more about its definition; Sidon is not traditionally part of this region, neither is Hasbaya which is also mentioned here. The mountain region Sidon was affiliated with was the Shuf (southern Mt Lebanon), while Hasbaya is part of Wadi al-Taym. From my understanding, Tyre and its coast are commonly considered part of the region (even though it is not part of the 'Jabal' proper), similar to how Acre and its coast are often considered part of the Galilee. Al Ameer (talk) 02:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Oncenawhile: We have some answers now. Jabal Amil is more of a cultural region than a proper geographic area. I could only assume that it was originally meant for the highlands, hence 'Jabal', but gradually came to also include the adjacent coast. Its geographic definition varies, but at its core, it is the mostly Twelver Shia-populated area on either side of the Litani, between the great valleys in the east and the Mediterranean coast. Its southern boundary is regarded as the Wadi al-Qarn, which today falls a few km into modern Israel. The northern boundary is sometimes considered the Awali River north of Sidon, and sometimes the Zahrani River south of it. It includes Tyre, and could include Sidon, though the latter is a weaker link. 'Bilad Bishara' refers to the southern part of Jabal Amil, presumably south of the Litani, but possibly even further south. While this clarifies the situation bit for Jabal Amil, not sure if it helps with the question of how to define the Galilee. Regards, Al Ameer (talk) 16:36, 16 December 2021 (UTC)