Talk:Jack Lynch

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• Is it possible for anyone to get a picture of Jack Lynch and add it to the page?
• Is it possible to have the Sporting career and political life tables the same size?

NPOV

This is far from the best article on a Taoiseach that I've read on this site. As usual, sources aren't listed, and there are many subjective evaluations of Lynch's popularity and integrity, which, while I'm not necessarily quarrelling with them, are neither here nor there as long as they remain unreferenced. It's okay to say that the guy was very popular, but there has to be some evidence for the fact that isn't just anecdotal - such as the judgment of noted scholars or historians, or a quote from an obituary in a newspaper of record. Lexo, 17:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

jack lynch what ever his personal and sporting qualities lacked the balls to deal with the crisis that occured in northern ireland in august 1969 a goverment that cant defend its people doesnt deserve the name Bouse23 17:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. This kind of thing is really not appropriate as well: "It was for this that the man known as "the Real Taoiseach" or "the Reluctant Taoiseach", with his ever-present pipe and the soft Cork lilt in his voice will be remembered."

LOL

Was his middle name really Mary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.12.18 (talk) 10:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes - see https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01292/1535049.pdf AJCottrell (talk) 16:00, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Neutrality

Both ministers were sacked after some initial procrastination on Lynch's part, his innocent but incompetent Minister for Justice, Micheál Ó Móráin, retired the day before and a fourth minister, Kevin Boland and his Parliamentary Secretary, resigned in sympathy with Haughey and Blaney. This hardly seems neutral? I'd like to remove it. Davebushe (talk) 23:57, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Leader of the Opposition

There is no position in Irish politics called 'Leader of the Opposition'. I propose that it be deleted from the infobox. Cripipper (talk) 11:08, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree, the infobox is called officeholder, it should be for actual offices held, not spokesperson or party roles. Snappy (talk) 14:51, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Máirín O'Connor's family background

This article says Jack Lynch's wife, Máirín O'Connor, was the daughter of a Dublin judge, but the wiki article about her says she was the daughter of a naval officer lost at sea. What is the truth? Does anyone have any references? Iain (talk) 00:53, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

There is an interesting article here: https://www.dib.ie/biography/lynch-mairin-a9362

It looks like neither is true.

What I can state however, that my family were members of the aunt of Lynch who took him in when his mother died.

He lived for a period in Cappagh near Kilrush, Co. Clare. He never spoke or contacted the siblings (my Granny) for as long as I knew her. I'd be interested in reading if anyone knows anything about this history. 81.185.165.215 (talk) 13:04, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01329/1548835.pdf is her birth registration. I can find no records for a marriage of Arthur O'Connor and Margaret Doyle in Ireland or the UK and no death record for Arthur O'Connor if he were lost in WW1. It seems a somewhat dubious story, perhaps. AJCottrell (talk) 20:02, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Put repeated wiki links for same person in different sections of Officeholder infobox?

In this article, Lynch was succeeded in many official roles by the same person --- Charles Haughey. It seems strange to me that only the first instance of these has a link to Haughey's Wiki article. Is there a reason why we shouldn't have Charles Haughey in each instance of the Officeholder infobox? (Ditto other repeated people, of course.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beanyk (talk • contribs) 14:31, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Picture

Can someone find a better picture for Lynch? Maybe one where he has his eyes open maybe? Irishpolitical (talk) 14:34, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Photograph

Can something more suitable be found? His eyes are shut, or half-shut. Hanoi Road (talk) 16:27, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Photo

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/irish-taoiseach-jack-lynch-16th-june-1971-news-photo/91216294

Is this photo under copyright? Or we can change to it Mac O'Donnell (talk) 13:30, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Severe lack of citations

The article has been amazingly lacking citations since its creation; very substantial chunks of the narrative have been completely unreferenced for over 20 years. It's hard to believe that such a key historical figure has been mostly documented by so much unsubstantiated original research. Spideog (talk) 20:25, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree, but a single tag will suffice. Scolaire (talk) 14:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I took the trouble to use different tags to identify different levels of the problem in different article sections (specificity). It's also easy to breeze on past a single tag at the top and forget about it, or even not to notice it at all.

In practice, I was reading backwards from the bottom of the article and tagging sections with their different individual requirements as I rose to the top. It was time consuming but the effort was intended as a helpful "map" of variations of deficiency throughout. Serious problem (priority) here, a bit less so there. Spideog (talk) 16:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Possible new image

The current image used for Lynch is rather grainy and low-quality, which would be understandable if that was the only one that exists, but it isn't. Recently, I found this image https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jack_Lynch,_1972_(cropped).jpg, which would make an excellent substitute. While I would replace it myself, this is an important article so I thought I would hold off first and post this here before doing anything. Frolickier (talk) 00:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)