Talk:Jacklyn H. Lucas

WP:MILHIST Assessment

A bit longer than your average Start-class article, and with a picture, infobox, and other relevant extras. But the text reads as the sort of thing you'd hear on History Channel - somewhat dramatized. You begin with saying how heroic and selfless he is, move on to his origins as an all-American athletic guy from a little town in North Carolina, then move on by discussing how he selflessly snuck into the military, lying about his age so that he could serve his country. Now, all of this may be true, but it reads like the kind of idealistic soldier invented by a novelist or something. Tone it down a bit, make the POV a bit more neutral. Then we can push it up to B-class. LordAmeth 09:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The guy jumped on a grenade to save his fellow Marines. If you can find a neutral, undramatic way to portray that sort of thing...--96.241.24.100 (talk) 00:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Two grenades.

"Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views." I guess you don't like following the rules to get what you want either. You're a douchebag. Tone it down? Are you kidding me? I'm nominating you for the Biggest Douche In The Universe Award. I'm sure you'll have a good chance of winning.........douche. 14JL

Army service

The article should mention his education, civilian life, and Army[1] service, too. Rklawton (talk) 22:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

DIdn't that CNN article say that Marine Corps moved him to support roles when they discovered his true age from his letters to his sweetheart?194.197.79.18 (talk) 06:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Read the book Indestructible and you'll have info on that.

Civilian life

It would certainly tone down the article if more was written on his civilian life.

In his book Indestructible, Jack Lucas states that his life after his service in WW II was pretty screwed up and that he was responsible for all of it. His zest for alcohol and women brought an end to his first marriage with a woman who loved him and was responsible for most of his other problems and failures also. In his second (?) marriage his wife actually plotted to have him killed. How many people do you know had that experience? Fortunately, the guy who was to do it told Jack, and Jack's wife and her boy friend were arrested.

I think one of the more interesting experiences of his post-WW II life was when he turned 18 and had to register for the draft — after having served in the Marines beginning at the age of 14, fought in the Pacific, and already received the Medal of Honor!

Still, his civilian life was such a let-down from what he did during the war that it would take someone more dedicated than I to add it to his WP page. What a shame. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 20:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Youngest Marine to receive MOH

I reverted an edit (first edit from a user only identified by IP address) that modified the statement that Private Lucas was the youngest Marine to receive the Medal of Honor to add "since the Civil War." Here is the web page URL from the Marine Corps history web site that contains the list of MOH awards to Marines for actions during the Civil War with links to information on each man. http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/HD/MOH/Civil_War_1861-1865.htm All of these Marines were born at least 18 years before they earned the medal. (I checked again today to be sure I did not make a math error. Unless the Marine Corps site has a mistaken birth date for any of the Civil War Marines, Lucas was younger when he earned his award, just past age 17, than any Civil War Marine who earned the MOH was at the time of his action. In fact, the youngest Civil War Marine MOH recipient was just over 18 when he enlisted.) Note that the article says that Private Lucas was the youngest "Marine" to be awarded the MOH. I did not check and do not know whether there may have been a younger soldier from the Union Army or a sailor who received the MOH for actions in the American Civil War but that is irrelevant. It would not justify the edit because the statement in the article merely says Private Lucas was the youngest "Marine" ever to receive the medal, not the youngest person to receive it (although perhaps he was). Donner60 (talk) 04:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Obvious error.

"He served in the 82nd Airborne Division from 1961 to 1965 as a paratrooper to conquer his fear of heights" His citation is for actions on 2/20/45 in Iwa Jima WWII.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.149.14 (talk) 08:53, 9 August 2013 (UTC) 

Fall survival

I find it hard to believe he survived a fall without either parachute opening. He probably had partial opening at least. Could be reworded with a bit of skepticism. Technophant (talk) 15:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

I changed it. It’s hard to review sources because most have link rot. Technophant (talk) 15:51, 4 April 2020 (UTC)