Talk:Jacob M. Appel

DOB

Please note corrected author's date of birth. Please do not change without additional citation. This comes straight from public databases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:9402:6483:B807:881E:1D10:DD22 (talk) 10:58, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Spam links

I have the impression that several links to this article are spammish, i.e. they exist only to give additional notoriety to Appel. It's inappropriate to quote Appel as if he were the only one to have ever advocated the ideas he's advocated, because he most likely isn't. ADM (talk) 00:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes! Thank you, I tried pointing this out twice already. Maybe now that it doesn't seem like a personal crusade of mine (really, Appel seems like a cool guy, I just hate running into his name randomly all the time) something can get done.

24.200.159.33 (talk) 02:24, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should leave a message to Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard, these people are pretty much in charge of day-to-day maintenance activities, in a sense that I am not. If you agree with me that there is an unusual pattern of link flooding on this page, it might be a good idea to communicate with the noticeboard. ADM (talk) 02:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Professor Appel has some pretty unusual ideas and a gift for expressing them cogently, so it often does make sense to quote him. I have been researching him for my thesis, and while I can understand why you might disagree with his arguments, I think it's rather obvious that they are important and original. JohnTalaver (talk) 23:01, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I think you misread the comments above. I don't find the ideas all that unusual, or find myself disagreeing with them when I come across them randomly on Wikipedia pages. It is simply very much not even remotely obvious that they are important in comparison to a million other things that have been said about whatever topic the page is concerned with.--24.200.159.33 (talk) 05:57, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

OK, reading some more of his stuff, I agree it is unusual in public discourse to state what he does with frankness. I just wish the ideas were highlighted and not the man (that can come later, when he is important in addition to the ideas espoused..--24.200.159.33 (talk) 06:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

The emphasis on the man may be that he's also a fairly well established short story writer and he'd pass a notability test for that as well, I think. JohnTalaver (talk) 23:37, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I too have concerns about a possible artificial inflation of Dr. Appel's importance. He isn't the only bio-ethicist in America, and yet it seems that his opinions on many bioethical issues are the only ones worth mentioning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.249.169.22 (talk) 06:30, 16 September 2010

There are currently a couple hundred articles that cite, quote, or mention Appel with links to this page. Most seem to give undue emphasis to his opinions as representative of some points of view, and some mention his fictions as "cultural references" of dubious relevance. The puppets[1][2] have been very busy. ~ Ningauble (talk) 13:00, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Bibliography

Someone should add a bibliography of Appel stories Droyne (talk) 18:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Conflict of interest, advert, refimprove, and sock issues

This article has spam / promo / advert issues, conflict of interest issues, and sock issues. More about the socks, at Wikiquote village pump and Checkuser request on Wikiquote. -- Cirt (talk) 19:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced, moved from BLP article main space to talk page

Biography

He received a B.A. and an M.A., both from Brown University; an M.A. and an M.Phil from Columbia University; an M.D. from Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons, an M.F.A. in creative writing from New York University, and a J.D. from Harvard Law School. He has been admitted to the bar in New York and Rhode Island.

Writer

Appel's stories have also won competitions held by The Missouri Review, Arts & Letters, Briar Cliff Review, North American Review, and Sycamore Review. His story "Counting" was short-listed for the O. Henry Award in 2001. In 2006 and 2007, he received a Special Mention by the Pushcart Prize. In 2007 and 2008, his short stories were listed among the notable works of the year by The Best American Short Stories and The Best American Nonrequired Reading.

Appel is also an accomplished playwright, with his play The Mistress of Wholesome winning the 2008 Writer’s Digest writing competition.

Over one hundred of Appel's short stories have been published in numerous literary journals, including The Alaska Quarterly Review, Colorado Review, Florida Review, Green Mountains Review, The Greensboro Review, Gulf Stream Magazine, The Iowa Review, Lake Effect, Louisiana Literature, Michigan Quarterly Review, North Dakota Quarterly, Raritan Quarterly Review, Shenandoah, South Dakota Review, Southern Humanities Review, Southwest Review, StoryQuarterly, The Threepenny Review, West Branch, and Xavier Review.

Bioethicist

As a professional bioethicist, Appel has published in Hastings Center Report, The Cambridge Quarterly of Healthcare Ethics, The Journal of Medical Ethics, Bulletin of the History of Medicine, and GeneWatch, the journal of the Council for Responsible Genetics.

He has taught medical ethics at New York University, Columbia University and at Brown University's Alpert Medical School.

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Unsourced, moved from BLP article main space to talk page. Per WP:BURDEN, do not add back these questionable promotional claims into main article space of BLP, unless properly sourced. -- Cirt (talk) 04:39, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

• Much of this material is sourced. I've added back those items that are specifically confirmed in the sources noted. If you think the content is in appropriate for other reasons, please indicate, but (for example) we have always accepted evidence that of a journal citation as evidence that item has been published. If you really need someone to go through medline and confirm all of those with direct links, that can be done, and certainly might help the article, but is certainly not our standard practice 68.71.52.56 (talk) 15:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Blocked as sock of User:TRATTOOO, IP appears to have been reverting to edits of sock, Njgarver (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 19:48, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

All of these sources check out FranklinPBells (talk) 09:38, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Blocked as sock of TRATTOOO (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 20:26, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Sources

This article now appear to have too many sources, not too few 198.203.29.74 (talk) 13:54, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Photograph?

Could someone find a photograph of the subject? I want one without limitting rights attached and the subject has not responded to my request! 198.203.29.74 (talk) 13:56, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

• Done 66.63.176.176 (talk) 00:02, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Emphasis

Appel is best known for his prolific short story writing, far more than anything else. This seems totally lost in the article at present. Although not a reliable source, this should give a sense of what he does: http://passagesnorth.com/2013/04/writers-on-writing-37-jacob-m-appel/ We have been discussing him in my class and the article doesn't seem to reflect any of the things we discussed about him, both good and bad 96.44.161.151 (talk) 20:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

~We are in the same class and i agree and will try to fix it 216.45.53.208 (talk) 13:53, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I think this is now adequately addressed. Further suggestions? (I am same poster as 13:53, addressing comment above)216.45.53.229 (talk) 02:43, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

TRATTOOO

I suspect that hero, ethicist etc. Jacob is behind TRATTOOO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.32.1 (talk) 14:05, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

This is a statement of the obvious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.32.1 (talk) 15:10, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Date of Birth

Multiple sources list 1973 including copyright office. Please do not change without providing source. If you have a copy of Appel's birth certificate, which seems highly unlikely, please provide a link 43.245.199.152 (talk) 18:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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