Talk:Jimmy Carter

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Latest comment: 1 day ago by MPFitz1968 in topic Jimmy Carter death

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One month, not 2 weeks

" In August, Carter said he hoped to vote for the Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, in the 2024 presidential election, two weeks after his 100th birthday"

The same Guardian article clarified that he will turn 100 one month before the November election, not two weeks before. TheSupremeMoron (talk) 15:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The source was indicating that early voting in Georgia starts on October 15, 2024, which is exactly two weeks after Carter's 100th birthday. Since we don't know whether Carter will make it to that date, nor when he will vote if he does make it to then, I'd say that based on how the sentence here is written, we shouldn't specify an exact relative date ("two weeks" or "one month") in the sentence. Simply saying it will be "after his 100th birthday" should suffice. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also he'll probably vote absentee, which means he will mark his ballot even earlier, although it won't be counted until later. And we don't know what the rules are if someone dies before the count. So I agree we should leave out the exact timeframe. GA-RT-22 (talk) 15:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
fair enough TheSupremeMoron (talk) 17:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
From what I understand, Georgia has no laws on whether or not these votes should be counted (https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/counting-absentee-ballots-after-a-voter-dies), so it's unclear what would happen to his ballot Qqars (talk) 17:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
According to People magazine, Georgia does not have any laws barring a ballot from being counted if someone dies between the early voting period and Election Day. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:25, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Voting is via secret ballot, so it would be quite interesting how they would know the vote to disregard it, gotcha ? 82.131.147.255 (talk) 22:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
An absentee ballot can be rejected (for an invalid signature or other procedural error) up until it is removed from the envelope and placed in the pile to be counted. When that occurs depends on state law. Donald Albury 22:39, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Centenarian?

Why does it say he's a centenarian? Isn't his birthday October 1? That's tomorrow, at least in the eastern time zone. Are we going by UTC? GA-RT-22 (talk) 00:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I mean... Wikipedia runs on UTC, so I guess in that case he is a centenarian. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 00:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Not exactly since we still have to wait until its midnight in Georgia to officially say it. CAnny (talk) 01:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
It will be automatically updated in 150 minutes. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 01:30, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
So I guess we're taking the Midnight Train to Georgia GA-RT-22 (talk) 01:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Is it the same train the Devil took to get to Georgia? LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 02:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks to {{show by date}}, the previous wording will remain until midnight in the eastern time zone. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 01:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm sure this has been a problem before guys---I'm certain there's an correct answer with your guys' experience Aziair (talk) 03:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
You go up in age at midnight the day before your birthday, at least under English and American common law. Absolutely no one considers you to have, but this is legally correct:
https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/4783/us-law-what-exact-time-is-a-person-considered-legally-18
Good luck convincing a bouncer, but it's true.
Social Security agrees too:
https://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/404/404-0102.htm Embowaf (talk) 03:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also, that's probably why the info box shows him as 100 already and that's calculated. Embowaf (talk) 03:41, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Not quite; the infobox calculated "100" as soon as it passed midnight UTC. Per users above, the prose is awaiting midnight EDT. Rhain (he/him) 03:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Fair enough on the infobox. But, I'm pretty sure I'm right still. Not gonna fight it; it's an obscure fact. Embowaf (talk) 04:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I never claimed otherwise, nor am I interested in doing so. Rhain (he/him) 04:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sources

Is there some reason the Bibliography section is not alphabetized by author name? Would it be ok for me to sort it?

What is this section anyway? I thought it was works cited, but it has a number of works listed that are not cited. Are these supposed to be general references? If not, are they further reading, and should they be moved to that section?

What is the primary sources section? Why are these in the further reading section if they are sources? It looks like it's books written by Carter, except for the last three entries on the list. What are these? GA-RT-22 (talk) 04:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Everything in the § Bibliography section is cited. I've sorted them alphabetically. Rhain (he/him) 04:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Extended-Confirmed-protected edit requests

Could you please change the 199th reference (since it is a dead link and is not archived) to this: https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/09/department-of-education-history-000235/ Thanks, Who am I? Talk to me! What have I done? 08:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ref numbers change all the time. Can you be more specific? GA-RT-22 (talk) 14:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Done. Good catch. The link # hadn't changed since the request was made, so it was a fairly easy fix. That being said, GA-RT-22 is correct in saying that ref numbers change frequently in the course of editing. So, for future reference, please give more specific details when requesting a replacement link for a specific reference. Thanks. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 15:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for helping me know that.
Who am I? Talk to me! What have I done? 17:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Very unnecessary Секретное общество (talk) 06:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Jimmy Carter 100th birthday mosaic

Please consider putting this information in the article in some form. — Jimmy Carter's 100th birthday: Here's how to sign the virtual card: Celebrating 100 Years!. Thanks. Bob K31416 (talk) 00:09, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why? This is an online encyclopedia. We're also not supposed to solicit other websites. Секретное общество (talk) 06:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Jimmy Carter death

Jimmy carter death 22 october 2024 185.255.123.121 (talk) 02:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.— ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 02:44, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
There are no sources for this; better to revert any more of this misinformation/disinformation. MPFitz1968 (talk) 02:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Reply