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Political Views
editWhy is there nothing on the man's political views and the reason he was in Syria? Two Tune (talk) 00:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- What do you mean? He was there on assignment by his employers, as noted. -- GreenC 01:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- I have to explain what "political views" means? Two Tune (talk) 02:41, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- You have to explain why they might be relevant. We know why he was in Syria. Dougweller (talk) 10:14, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Seconded. I don't see any relevance of the man's personal political views either. Since he was a journalist, I think it's safe to assume he only reported news as it happened.Myopia123 (talk) 21:05, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Are you the type of person who thinks MSNBC doesn't have a political bias? His Twitter account makes MSNBC look moderate! *sigh* A war is coming, this is a direct cause of it, and Wikipedians are working to do their part to assure that the Americans protected from "irrelevant" information that might paint for them a more accurate picture of the world. Two Tune (talk) 03:00, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Something of a critical nature like that should be discussed in a reliable secondary source. On grounds of both Original Research and BLP. As for your accusation that your fellow Wikipedians are "working hard" to prevent "the Americans" from learning the truth etc.. please see WP:AGF. -- GreenC 03:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Man if you want the content here so bad, go find a reliable source and add it yourself. Starting this section with a demand and getting all worked up because no one else did it is just lazy.Myopia123 (talk) 04:07, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Because it would get reverted. It would be futile. That's like saying if I complain about President Obama, the solution is for me to run for President. Two Tune (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- That is the worst analogy I've heard in a long time. If his political views are relevant and verifiable, you could do exactly that in less than an hour. You think using google and editing a wikipedia page is on the same level of difficulty as running for the highest political office in this country? You think it takes the same level of resources? That's just mind-boggling. No, what it was suggested you do is (in your analogy) vote for the other guy. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 18:22, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- Because it would get reverted. It would be futile. That's like saying if I complain about President Obama, the solution is for me to run for President. Two Tune (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- Man if you want the content here so bad, go find a reliable source and add it yourself. Starting this section with a demand and getting all worked up because no one else did it is just lazy.Myopia123 (talk) 04:07, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Something of a critical nature like that should be discussed in a reliable secondary source. On grounds of both Original Research and BLP. As for your accusation that your fellow Wikipedians are "working hard" to prevent "the Americans" from learning the truth etc.. please see WP:AGF. -- GreenC 03:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Are you the type of person who thinks MSNBC doesn't have a political bias? His Twitter account makes MSNBC look moderate! *sigh* A war is coming, this is a direct cause of it, and Wikipedians are working to do their part to assure that the Americans protected from "irrelevant" information that might paint for them a more accurate picture of the world. Two Tune (talk) 03:00, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Seconded. I don't see any relevance of the man's personal political views either. Since he was a journalist, I think it's safe to assume he only reported news as it happened.Myopia123 (talk) 21:05, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- You have to explain why they might be relevant. We know why he was in Syria. Dougweller (talk) 10:14, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Diane Foley in part one of the AC360 interview (below) said "Jim was very passionate about freedom, freedom of the press, freedom for disadvantaged children. For -- a chance for education." Some of that could be included. Also in the sources of John Cantlie it says that John Cantie and Foley were in Syria filming a recreation of Cantie's first abduction.~Technophant (talk) 05:16, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
@Ghazwan Mattoka: The last paragraph under Beheading was inserted on Dec 19, based on a single source: a story in Al Aan TV, an Arabic infotainment satellite station. I have some questions on that paragraph and its source but I can't read Arabic.
- Who are the three Syrian negotiators? You indicate that they are neutral. On what evidence in the source do you base that on?
- Why do the negotiators demand that the money be paid first? Wouldn't it be better to say "...negotiators who said that ISIS demanded that..."? Or did the negotiators insert that demand themselves?
- Was the final sentence in the paragraph involving the US State Dept from that same Al Aan story? If not, then {{CN}}.
Also, has anyone discovered another source for the information besides Al Aan? What I need is someone who can translate the original story: either in full or enough that an English-speaker can answer my questions. See WP:RSUE for the policy on non-English sources. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 16:41, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Who put this here?
edit"In December 2014, ISIS offered to give Foley's headless body to his family in exchange for one million US dollars. The negotiators' initiative is human, to help end his family's ordeal."
Who can sincerely think that the supposed initiative is human? And write it like that in here? ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.212.117 (talk) 19:52, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Foley was captured by Assad's forces, then killed by ISIS?
editReading the article, it is entirely unclear how Foley apparently was kidnapped and held captive by Assad's forces, yet then all of a sudden killed by ISIS. The article is very confusing in this regard. Was he "stolen" by ISIS because he had reported against Assad and later killed? Not very likely. It is much more probable that Foley had never been held by Assad to begin with, but rather by ISIS, and that the (unverified) claim that he was in a Syrian government prison was part of America's anti-Assad propaganda. (This wouldn't be the first time the US spreads lies for war purposes). I don't know, but whatever may be, in its current state, the article is very confusing.
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