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editUndid revision 660050829 by Anmccaff (talk) revert. use inline ref (breaking style but since content is disputed, this is needed) remove ulcer thing since not well supported)
How is it "not well supported?" There are several references to it, probably more that to peritonitis near his death. Anmccaff (talk) 13:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- 1st "perforating ulcer" is some funky ye olde medical language. what are the sources you have found for his cause of death? and by the way, what kills you if you have a Gastrointestinal perforation is generally peritonitis.) Jytdog (talk) 13:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Nahhh. Lasted in common use up 'til WWI; do an ngram or a book search if you doubt it. Not even a victorianism, much less a leftover from the days of eth and thorn. A bunch of medical vocabulary shifted then; I suspect that soft-tissue xray improvements that came with the war played into it.
- Hearnshaw's James McLachlan Nairn: the New Zealand Years makes explicit that peritonitis is sometimes a later educated guess, not a certainty. Nairn's chronic ill-health suggests TB, for instance, and there are a good number of places the gut can hole outside of the stomach and duodenum. There are also a few other ways to die from it; some will bleed you out in a minute, sometimes internally. Anmccaff (talk) 16:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- shall we just remove cause of death? Jytdog (talk) 16:19, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'd just add "probably" before "peritonitis," and add the other materials as (inline?) notes. Anmccaff (talk) 16:39, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- ok by me. Jytdog (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'd just add "probably" before "peritonitis," and add the other materials as (inline?) notes. Anmccaff (talk) 16:39, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- shall we just remove cause of death? Jytdog (talk) 16:19, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hearnshaw's James McLachlan Nairn: the New Zealand Years makes explicit that peritonitis is sometimes a later educated guess, not a certainty. Nairn's chronic ill-health suggests TB, for instance, and there are a good number of places the gut can hole outside of the stomach and duodenum. There are also a few other ways to die from it; some will bleed you out in a minute, sometimes internally. Anmccaff (talk) 16:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)