Talk:James Scaramanga

Latest comment: 1 year ago by RAClarke in topic Place of birth

Place of birth

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Since more sources (as well as his grave marker) list Redhill as his birthplace, why don't you say that first, and add that "other sources" cite it as Reigate? Yoninah (talk) 20:14, 26 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Copies of the entry for Scaramanga in the Register of Births at Reigate RD say* that he was born at a property called Rosemont in Meadvale, Reigate UD. This lies wholly within both the Borough of Reigate and Banstead, and the Reigate Parliamentary Contituency. During the eighteenth century it also lay within the Reigate census enumeration district 16. On the 1901 census he is listed as born in Reigate. On that basis he may be said to have been born there.
However, in the article for Meadvale, it is explained that postal addresses in the southern part of Meadvale fall within the town of Redhill. If Rosemont was in that part then Redhill would be a more specific description. Three sources locate Rosemont in Cronks Hill Road -
Kelly's Directory of Kent, Surrey & Sussex, 1891. [Part 3: Surrey], Page 1442
https://cdm16445.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/187347/rec/1
The 1881 Census of England and Wales. Surrey, Reigate Foreign, District 16, Page 2
The 1891 Census of England and Wales. Surrey, Reigate, District 16, Page 2
These sources relate to Henry Bourne, a retired plantation manager.
Given that Scaramaga's entry in the Census of 1911 says that he was born in Redhill then the article could simply say that alone. Deleting mention of Reigate would, in my view, improve the article. I propose doing so unless the sources are challenged or the change is considered WP:OR.
  • Scaramanga, James John, Q3 1898, Reigate, Surrey, Volume 2a, page 186
RAClarke (talk) 19:02, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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