Talk:Jamie Margolin

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"These should still be decided on a case-by-case basis, based on an actual analysis rather than simply "they're bad"." you do not have a broad consensus, or policy basis, to remove images. please discuss before unilaterally removing reliable sourced content. --Turktimex3 (talk) 16:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Controversies

Looks like this section is under attack by several unverified users: DubbSteps420, Pinetree27 and Citizen Kane 3 B. I was accused by ToBeFree of "continu[ing] to restor[e] the disputed material" then ToBeFree threatened to block me from editing pages. Shall we have a consensus as to whether this topic shall be included rather than threatening people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReidLark1n (talk • contribs) 23:18, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

To ensure that these concerns are noticed by experienced users, I have added a section at WP:BLPN#Jamie_Margolin pointing here. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Here are some articles which at least form the foundation for discussion:

https://nyunews.com/news/2021/10/20/jamie-margolin-emma-tang-sexual-assault-allegations/

https://www.yahoo.com/video/aapi-activist-climate-activist-accuse-230055269.html

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=kkKx9zgobOECUysUF5dmfA== ReidLark1n (talk) 23:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't really want to get involved in this, but I did notice that there was a source in the paragraph prior to its removal, so that is worth mentioning. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 23:29, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

The accusation verifiably happened. There is a court document cited. The question is whether the topic is covered by § Public figures. ReidLark1n (talk) 23:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

It also appears that User:Citizen Kane 3 B, the user who removed the disputed content, has now been CU blocked by Materialscientist. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 23:38, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Make that all three of them. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 23:46, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Details about the CU blocks. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't see a single usable source for a BLP. Court Documents are not usable, NYU is a college student, not a bonafide journalist and Yahoo is apparently an editorial from NextShark who has no actual identifiable editorial controls. Slywriter (talk) 01:14, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

That is interesting instead. I do believe this BLP loophole allows public figures to evade otherwise accurate reporting from primary sources and secondary sources that fall short of a level of notoriety New York Times, etc. Se La Vie. ReidLark1n (talk) 16:23, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

or re-affirms that we are not a WP:TABLOID and not everything that happens is documented in Wikipedia. As we have WP:NODEADLINE, we can patiently wait for sources to catch up.. or not. Slywriter (talk) 23:12, 27 March 2023 (UTC)