Talk:Japanese cruiser Mikuma

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Another article states that the Mikuma was eventually scuttled by a Japanese destroyer. I gather that's wrong? --Kizor 12:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

According to [1], Japanese Admiral Kondo ordered the destroyer Asashio to scuttle Mikuma but when Asashio arrived Mikuma had already sank on it's own. What other article says that Mikuma was scuttled? If you could fix it, that would be very helpful. Cla68 12:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

It was SBD Dauntless. Fixed. --Kizor 14:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Collision between Mikuma and Mogami

The article states under "Battle of Midway" that:

"Kumano signaled a 45° simultaneous turn to starboard to avoid possible torpedoes. The emergency turn was correctly executed by the flagship and Suzuya, but the third ship in the line, Mikuma, erroneously made a 90° turn. Behind her, Mogami turned 45° as commanded. This resulted in a collision in which Mogami rammed Mikuma's portside, below the bridge."

There are two ways this can be interpreted:

 1. If Mikuma turned starboard 90 degrees, then Mogami either hit Mikuma on her starboard side or else Mogami had to pass Mikuma and come back to hit her on her port side.

 2. If Mikuma turned port 90 degrees, then to collide, Mogami must have also turned to port but at 45 degrees, resulting in the collision.  Otherwise, if Mogami had turned starboard she would have missed Mikuma totally.

While in the confusion of the moment case 2 is possible, from the information available from this article it would seem that the more likely scenario is that Mogami hit Mikuma on Mikuma's starboard side rather than her port side and the article simply needs to be corrected.

However, if there was miscommunication down the line of the four ships, that information should be expounded upon.

199.209.255.246 (talk) 15:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)eef

I came to this page to address this very point, and see that the subject has already been brought up, but not answered. The accident as described seems wrong, Could somebody please correct for either direction of turn or side of ship that was rammed or provide more details that might show how the ramming could have actually occurred as described? Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

81 SBDs from USS Enterprise and USS Hornet

(Note copied from Mogami article)

This is an unlikely number given the SBD losses of June 4th and suspiciously identical to the number of fatalities. Enterprise fielded 11 SBDs in that particular strike.

"The attack group was led by Lieutenant SHORT, VS-5, and consisted of 31 SBD's from VB-3, VS-5, VB-6, VS-6; 3 TBD's from VT-6 and 12 F4F-4's from VF-6." Source Scouting Six Action Report: http://www.cv6.org/ship/logs/action19420604-vs6.htm

Jp421 (talk) 21:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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Capt. Richard E. Fleming discrepancy

This page states:

>A Vindicator flown by Capt. Richard E. Fleming attacked after being set ablaze by anti-aircraft fire. His bomb missed and he attempted to ram the bridge of the ship. He missed the bridge but hit the after turret instead. The resulting fire was drawn into the air intakes for the engine room, causing an explosion of gas fumes below which killed all hands in the engine room.[10] .

Richard E. Fleming has his own dedicated Wikipedia page, which states that:

>The following day, June 5, 1942, Capt. Fleming led the second division of his squadron in a mass dive-bombing assault on the Mikuma. Putting his plane into an approach glide, he again dived low and succeeded in scoring a near-miss on the objective. His plane, hit by anti-aircraft fire, caught fire. Unable to pull out of his dive, Capt. Fleming, his plane a mass of flames, crashed into the sea. His gunner, Private first class George Albert Toms, was also killed.[1]

These pages should be reconciled.

Meteoritekid (talk) 19:57, 1 March 2019 (UTC)