Talk:Japanese evacuation of Karafuto and the Kuril Islands

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Okay, some of this stuff must have been ripped off from a book - lets hope it was material in the public domain. I suspect this since some of the text looks like typical unprocessed output of OCR software. - Eric 11:29, 24 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

No, go back to the initial version: errors like 'cominzed' for 'commenced' (began) are the signature of a particular user (aboout whom we know quite a lot). See User:Charles Matthews/Imperial Japan for the full picture. There have been copyvio issues. But AFAIK repeated claims that translation software or other mechanical aids are involved have not been made to stand up. Charles Matthews 11:43, 24 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

WPMILHIST Assessment

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Firstly, references need to be cited here. Secondly, I'm not sure I understand what is meant by "Russian version" and "Japanese version". Are these supposed to be the same event, seen from different perspectives? If that is the case, then there is a story somewhere in between which is NPOV, and that's what needs to be here, not either or both of the perspectives seen here. If not, if these are separate events entirely, then they should be labeled and described better. LordAmeth

Question of the Title of this Article

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I want to question about the title of this article. From August 9 to August 25, Karafuto (Sakhalin in Russian) was not just going through evacuation but fighting against the Soviet invasion. I am wondering if we could perhaps use a title such as "Battle of Sakhalin" or "Soviet Invasion of Sakhalin" etc. Unfortunately, this part of the history has been largely ignored by the Japanese government due to their fear of provoking the Russian government to end the solution to their (Japanese/Russian) border dispute. So far, two movies have been created based on this invasion. One is "Hyosetsu no Mon" and the other is "Kiri no Hi". Hyosetsu no Mon has been banned by the Japanese government due to Russian protest. So far, the fact is, Soviet Union has broken their neutrality treaty with Japan and invaded the Japanese Karafuto and virtually went on rampage due to revenge. I'll be doing more research and will add information to this page. My understanding is, the Japanese victims varies from 5,000 to 100,000 depending of sources. Please, we don't want any nationalist putting racist comments. War is war and unfortunately in this case, the victims were the Japanese civillians. Peace to the world. Never again, War... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.0.102.205 (talk) 21:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Questioning the Title as well

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The name is confusing. This is a hidden portion of the World War 2 which was never taken settled. Soviet Union was not part of the San Francisco Treaty so this whole article has no basis on number of victims etc and what happened. Victors write history too. This article seriously needs to be reviewed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.41.148.220 (talk) 23:45, 19 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

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