Talk:Jared Evan

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To editor Jrok89: Since you've asked for clarification and help.... I think the most important thing for you to do is tell us about any conflict of interest you might have, as you are legally required to do. Your reaction is usually the sort of behavior we see from an editor who thinks they own the article or has a stake in how it looks. Maintenance templates exist to help Wikipedia editors identify problems which need solving. The templates on this article have blue links you could click on to learn what Wikipedia expects. The templates are in English so you should read them first. The short story is that this article relies on social media and interviews to advertise the subject. Odds are this subject is not notable and will therefore be deleted. Because wikis are open platforms, sometimes a problem article exists for awhile before we take notice and address it and that seems to be the case here as the article was insufficient back in 2018 but no one addressed it. Honesty is the best policy and the more you work with us, the more we can help you. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok got it, thank you for explain Chris. I just want al of the issues with the article to be fixed. I don't want to do anything improper that will cause more issues. Let me know how this can be solved. Jrok89 (talk) 21:56, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Jrok89 First, please tell us your association, if any, with Mr. Evan. Please also tell which criteria of the definition of a notable musician he meets. 331dot (talk) 22:01, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

I am Jared Evan. In terms of the your second request, I am confused by what you mean. If you mean what validates me as an artist, I was signed to Interscope Records and have released multiple albums throughout the 2010s, as well as produced and written songs for numerous other artists. Let me know if I'm on the right track or if you need anything else. Thank you. Jrok89 (talk) 22:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Jrok89 Wikipedia has a definition of a notable musician, please click the link right here to read it, and tell us which one(or more than one) of the criteria you meet. 331dot (talk) 22:09, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok I understand. The criterias of the definition of a notable musician that I meet are:

1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.

2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.

4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country

5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).

9. Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition.

10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications).

Let me know. Thank you! Jrok89 (talk) 22:14, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Now, you need independent reliable sources to support your claims, and that have significant coverage of you not prompted by you or based on materials from you(like interviews, press releases or announcements). 331dot (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok here are the sources for each claim:

1. https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/jared-evan-is-ready-to-make-major-noise-267088/, https://www.laweekly.com/beats-hooks-raps-and-vocals-jared-evan-is-hip-hops-quadruple-threat/

2. https://top40-charts.com/artist.php?aid=12776

4. https://www.thecomplexslc.com/event-546.htm, https://www.concertarchives.org/bands/jared-evan?year=2011

5. https://chargerbulletin.com/new-artist-spotlight-jared-evan/, https://theneptunes.org/2010/09/jared-evan-working-with-the-neptunes/

9. https://www.34st.com/article/2009/10/artist-watch-jared-evan

10. https://streetfighterxtekken.fandom.com/wiki/Street_Fighter_X_Tekken_Soundtrack, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1638445/soundtrack

Let me know if you need more. Thank you! Jrok89 (talk) 22:30, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Since you are the subject, you should not be editing this article, and should instead post here for edits you'd like to see done. That said, this subject fails WP:MUSICBIO on every point except maybe number 2 or number 5. From what I see Billboard Greek Airplay is the only chart in Greece (I could be wrong) so I'm not sure what Top40-Charts is. (iTunes doesn't count as a chart on Wikipedia.) Anything fandom.com, reddit, and IMDb fails WP:SPS. The cites from Billboard, chargerbulletin, and laweekly all quote you and are friendly outlets, so I think there's doubt about independence. Without those sources you have about nothing regarding reliable sources, save the claim about a chart position. I think a deletion discussion might be the best way to sort that out. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:43, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey Chris,

I am so sorry if I didn't anything improper. I was completely unaware of anything I may have done that was improper and was just trying to update the article. It has been in existence for over a decade without any issues, so I was just naturally concerned as to why there were issues all of a sudden. I absolutely have sources to corroborate who I am and this article on me. Please, just let me know what the best way to go about this is in order to fix it. A deletion would be a huge blow to my biography/information.

Any guidance or advice in order to fix this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Jrok89 (talk) 00:50, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, issues can and do go unaddressed until someone decides to address them. This can take years more often than not.

Please understand that our main concern is not how the presence of an article here affects you(except if the information is wrong and/or you are being defamed). The correct place for you to give information about yourself is social media or a personal website. Our only concern is if a topic meets the notability criteria and has proper sources. No amount of editing can fix a lack of notability. Chris troutman gives an excellent answer above as to the issues here, and I'm not sure they are fixable. 331dot (talk) 01:12, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

I understand and thank you for clarifying that. So are you alluding to the idea that the article would have to be deleted? That would be a huge blow to my biography/information. I promise you that I can compile all of the proper sources for the article to be in good standing, if you can please give some time to compile the proper sources that would be greatly appreciated. If there are any other alternatives to this please, please let me know. Jrok89 (talk) 01:16, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Again, Wikipedia writes the articles we want. We don't care what the subjects think, so making an appeal on the basis of your income isn't a winner. What you need is to show us you had a song on an actual chart or you'll need more reliable sources to make a case for WP:GNG. Please don't add unreliable websites. More interviews won't help, either. We're in no rush but a deletion discussion is the proper format to poll regular editors to determine consensus, as those editors can search for sources, too. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:46, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey Chris, got it. Thank you for making that clear, as I mentioned before, I was completely unaware of how all of this worked, so thank you for this information. I will gather all of the proper sources as soon as I can and send them over. Jrok89 (talk) 03:13, 16 January 2023 (UTC)