Talk:Jaremi Carey

Petition to rename this article to "Jaremi Carey"

As of 2020, Jaremi himself has retired the "Phi Phi" drag name and now only wishes to be referred to by his actual name and he/him pronouns. Therefore, I think it's rational to change the name of this page to what he currently goes by. I have already edited the article to put the use of the "Phi Phi" name in past tense. And also he streams now on Twitch weekly so I also added that to his career occupations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redandvidya (talk • contribs) 04:40, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

• I'm Opposed, per WP:COMMONNAME. I'm willing to change my mind in the future if they release more content and projects under their new alias and become more notable with that alias, but as of now, I'd say they're most recognized as "Phi Phi O'Hara". --Scootersfood (talk) 04:49, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
• I agree with User:Scootersfood. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:42, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
• I agree with changing the article's name, as proposed by Redandvidya. The entire article refers to Jaremi using his last name, not his retired drag name which he does not associate with. If people search for Phi Phi O'Hara, Google still links to this article, so I see no reason not to change the name. Adscool09 (talk) 14:48, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 29 January 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Jaremi Carey. Colin M's well-reasoned oppose notwithstanding, I will also note that this is a BLP, and the subject's apparent renouncement of the drag name should also factor in the decision. No such user (talk) 10:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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Phi Phi O'Hara → Jaremi Carey – Carey does not regularly perform in drag any more, creates content under his legal name, and is on the record as disliking being called his drag name out of drag. Jedzz (talk) 19:01, 29 January 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:38, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Lennart97 (talk) 19:13, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

@Jedzz: Not uncontroversial given the earlier discussion on this talk page. Also pinging participants of that discussion: @Redandvidya, Scootersfood, Another Believer, and Adscool09:. Lennart97 (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

• Support. The article is about the person, not a fictional persona which he no longer uses, so it should use his name. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. It seems Carey renounced the "Phi Phi" persona in 2020, but even if we only consider sources published after that, per WP:NAMECHANGES, "Phi Phi O'Hara" still seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME. For example, a search for "Phi Phi O'Hara" on Google News limited to the last year turns up 12 results, whereas "Jaremi Carey" returns only 5 results. Considering the totality of RS coverage, the vast majority is about "Phi Phi", the drag persona, rather than the civilian under the makeup. The title of the article should reflect this. Colin M (talk) 19:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom.Showiecz (talk) 14:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.