Talk:Jarisha

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There are some pictures over at commons of a ruined mill by Yarkon, is this the famous Jarisha mill? (Compare the pictures with the Pal.rem-site-) -Huldra (talk) 17:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

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Ah, just found it, thanks to Petersen, 2002, ..and picture from Hebrew wp: it is the mill in Al-Mirr, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:42, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Naming - Yarkon vs. Awja

I think we all agree that the river is called Yarkon today, and tehre are many sources that describe Jarisha as being on the bakns of the YArkon (http://books.google.com/books?id=IpwLAAAAIAAJ&q=jarisha+yarkon&dq=jarisha+yarkon&ei=furYSuCTKIzSkwT5jM2SAQ, http://books.google.com/books?id=GaFtAAAAMAAJ&q=jarisha+yarkon&dq=jarisha+yarkon&ei=furYSuCTKIzSkwT5jM2SAQ). I don't quite understand the comment that "this is what it was called at the time" - what time are we talking about? It certainly was not called Awja during the Bronze period, and was called Yarqon/Yarkon since at least the mid 1920s (see this for example - http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1925/jul/30/palestine-yarkon-power-house) . I don't see a really good reason to use Awja. Millmoss (talk) 21:51, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, when the sources (like the one I used: Khalidi, 1992) use the name "Awja", then obviously, text inserted based on such sources should/could also use that name....preferably with a link to the WP-article, which is exactly what is done here. That *other* sources use the name Yarqon/Yarkon is not really very relevant, IMO.

Another point; Millmoss: if you are interested in the place; could you say anything about the pictures above here? Thanks. Regards, Huldra (talk) 22:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

You used a source that used Awja - but I could have easily used a source that used "Yarkon". Since we seem to agree that Yarkon is the current name, what's the reason to use an out-of-use name? Would you like me to use the references I quoted?

I have no idea about the pictures. Millmoss (talk) 22:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

If you add any information about the village to the article, from a source which use the name Yarkon...then you of course you can use the name "Yarkon" in that connection. But when quoting/citing/referencing sources that use the name "Awja"; i find it natural to use that name. Regards, Huldra (talk) 22:19, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'll quote and source the name Yarqon to references that use it. Millmoss (talk) 22:45, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Alongisde the one to Khalidi I hope. We will use both names. Nothing wrong with that. Tiamut^talk 22:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Huldra, your revert, in addition to restoring to a version that did not have any problems with the references, also re-introduced typos I've fixed, and removed new links I introduced. Please take more care in the future. Millmoss (talk) 23:13, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Khalidi

Jarisha village in the Map of Jaffa Tel Aviv Compiled, drawn and printed by the Survey of Palestine 1944

Khalidi's statement that "The site has been completely covered over by highways and suburban houses" should probably have been written "The village land has been mostly covered over by highways and suburban houses"; see Talk:Yarkon_Park#Jarisha and he: שבע טחנות for confirmation that the village core is within Yarkon Park at the site today described as the "Seven Mills". Onceinawhile (talk) 07:52, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

This close up map from 1944 makes it even more clear. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:27, 9 April 2022 (UTC)