Talk:Jason Dozzell/GA1

GA Review

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The article is looking pretty good. It covers his career and gives the available information about his personal life. Stability, neutrality, and references seem fine. There are no images, but none are required for GA status, and the references seem fine.

I did a bit of copyediting, and a few things came up during the review:

1. "As a player" and "As a manager" don't seem like encyclopedic headings. Perhaps "Playing career" and "Managerial career"?

   Fixed. The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 10:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

2. "with a return of five goals from 51 games, although he was relegated with the club to the Football League Second Division. His 1986–87 season saw him ever-present," - I had a few questions about this passage: (1) what does the first part mean — that he scored 5 times in 51 games? If so, that seems like a confusing way to say it. (2) relegated with the club, I understand to mean that the club was sent down to the second division and he went with them...again, the phrasing seems a little awkward, but not terrible. (3) "ever-present" doesn't seem encyclopedic. Does this just mean that he played in every game?

   Your understanding is correct on all three counts. I have improved the phrasing. "Ever-present" is common phraseology within the football world, but without a Wikipedia article to link to, I agree it is better to keep the wording simple and obvious. --Jameboy (talk) 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

3. The article makes a big leap from the 88-89 season to 91-92. Did anything happen in between? There is also no mention of 87-88.

   Fixed the big leap, the little leap was a season of little consequence - would you be happy with a simple passing mention or need more detail? The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 10:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

4. "His 16 goals in the 1991–92 season helped John Lyall's Ipswich win the league title and secure promotion to the newly formed Premier League,[13] where he featured regularly the following season, scoring nine goals in 52 games, helping the club stave off relegation in their first season back in the top tier of English football." - this is too long for one sentence.

   Fixed - split in two. The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 10:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

5. "managed only seven goal-less appearances" - as in there were only 7 games in which he did not score? If so, "scored in all but seven games" is more neutral. It also seems to have this in the same sentence as the injuries, but the two do not seem related and should be split. The reference given for the paragraph also doesn't seem to cover the 1994-95 season or his numerous injuries.

   I'm confident I know what is meant here: because of injuries, he played in just seven games and failed to score in any of them. I've improved the phrasing but I'm not sure I can help with the referencing. --Jameboy (talk) 21:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

   I've added some references to that paragraph; do any more bits need doing? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 22:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

6. "he left the club, citing off-pitch issues at the club" - is it possible to change one of the "club"s for some variety in this sentence?

   Fixed, I hope. The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 10:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

7. Did he leave Leiston for any particular reason?

   I can find no source which supplies that informatin I'm afraid... The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 10:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I am going to place the nomination on hold to allow for these concerns to be addressed and/or discussed. Any questions or comments can be left here, as I have placed this page on my watchlist. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

It's looking better. Only #2 and #5 still need work. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to all who have helped. My concerns have been addressed, so I am promoting this article. Best wishes to all, GaryColemanFan (talk) 02:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)