Talk:Jawbreaker (band)

Needs improvements

This page could be a lot more concise and informative. The quoting of a random lyric as the main body of the introduction is not a conductive of an encyclopedia. I'm going to change it unless anyone objects strenuously in the next couple of days. lots of love --Tommydski (talk) 20:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I wanted to expand a little on the history, the Jawbreaker site has a very in depth history that is a little daunting to read. I tried to focus on their 4 LPs, especially since each one is different. One point of contention: Dear You did cause alot of fans grief, but so did the tours surrounding 24 Hour Revenge Therapy, as can be garnered from the lyrical content and various interviews with the band at the time. Feel free to elaborate, but let's keep it clean and consistent with an Encyclopedia. Solid. --24.53.85.215 (talk) 23:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

It's hard to express Jawbreaker's greatness without coming across as a fanboi or resorting to editoral sniping. However, I think from a critical standpoint, they were head and shoulders above any of their peers or followers in terms of art. I think the discussion of lyrics and the comparisons to Chuck Bukowski are warranted. Although, the sample lyric chosen is almost more of a Kerouac "stream-of-conciousness" style prose. Despite the usual disagreements over Dear You (the critics liked it, alot of fans didn't), they have suceeded where many others fail, and that is we won't be seeing any reunion tours. It would be like if Lucas never had made the three new Star Wars movies or re-edited the old ones. I still maintain that if there was a band that encapsulated the beat-generation literary ethic, it would be Jawbreaker (despite being a few decades late). --Ezweave80 (talk) 23:27, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

hey, yeah good stuff. but $1000 to record an album is peanuts. it was a sarcastic comment to reflect this. albini is the most inexpensive engineer in the known world! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommydski (talk • contribs) 00:21, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Good point... took out the editoral comment. Must have been tired when I wrote that one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ezweave80 (talk • contribs) 05:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

This page is still tagged with COI, despite the edits that triggered that tag being removed almost 3 years ago. Is it reasonable to remove this tag now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellowerd (talk • contribs) 20:32, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Audio documentary

It may be useful to incorporate more information on the Jawbreaker page from this three-part "Audio Documentary":

• Metz, AJ (24 April 2006). "Music Series: Jawbreaker (The Early Years)" (MP3). Dailysonic.com.
• Metz, AJ (26 April 2006). "Music Series: Jawbreaker (The Middle Years)" (MP3). Dailysonic.com.
• Metz, AJ (28 April 2006). "Music Series: Jawbreaker (The End & After)" (MP3). Dailysonic.com.

--Restecp (talk) 18:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Just pulled the links to the audio documentary from the article page, links are dead, dailysonic.com is no more. If anyone can locate another source for this documentary, please build it back into the article. Here is a revised version of the snip that was in the article, which "introduced" the listing of links:

In April 2006, San Francisco based writer and musician AJ Metz completed a three-part Jawbreaker audio documentary, which spans Jawbreaker's entire career, and features rare recordings and interviews with all three band members.

--Restecp (talk) 06:14, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Period piece?

Who writes this crap: "Almost a period piece"?!?! This shit reads like a college newspaper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.59.75.34 (talk • contribs) 17:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Reunited?

What constitutes being a band exactly? They are just doing some filming for a documentary, and playing together. There are currently no plans for a reunion show or a CD. I do think the Rumored reunion (2008-present) part should be included, but 2008-present should not be listed under years active. --User:Vanisheduser12a67 (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to change it, change it back if you have a good reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Vanisheduser12a67 (talk • contribs) 23:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I just changed the "Post-break up (1997-2007)" section to "Post-break up (1997-present)", since there's no full or one-off reunion confirmed by any of the members of Jawbreaker or their management. I'll just leave the "Rumored reunion" section in that section for now, until there's any news on whether an actual Jawbreaker reunion will ever happen. --Alex (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Can we at least get rid of "2008-present" from the years active then? --User:Vanisheduser12a67 (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

For now since it's already removed, yes. --Alex (talk) 20:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Appropriated DIY ethic?

Other bands appropriated the DIY ethic from Jawbreaker? Are you kidding? I am removing this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.12.139.35 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Post-Emo?

How can this band be 'post' something they pretty much originated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.255.232.78 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Emo

Emo is a recent genre, it wasn't around for atleast 5 years after the time these guys broke up. As such I'm removing the Emo reference. Unless someone can find a reference or source classifying them as Emo it'll remain removed. --KarmaAndroid (talk) 05:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I can. Emogame.com, they are prominently featured throughout both versions of the game (as an emo band). Also the actual emo article cites Jawbreaker. This website calls them the "founding fathers of emo": [1]. I don't doubt that I could find more. ɹouuoɔ ^(ʞןɐʇ) 22:52, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes no doubt they influenced a great number of emo bands, and may well be emo themselves, but is it applicable to them considering emo began, at the earliest, about 2000? Serious question too, not trying to argue. In the same way, could you call any emotional band from any time emo? I would honestly say not because emo is of course recent. --KarmaAndroid (talk) 15:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

The genre has been around for 24 years. How is it recent? Its washed up and basterized nowadays if anything. --86.44.91.1 (talk) 19:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Whoa... at EARLIEST 2000? That's about when it ended. Emo has been around since the 80's. It is entirely applicable to call Jawbreaker emo. ɹouuoɔ ^(ʞןɐʇ) 20:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Sources

I'm going to be working on the article, using the following 2 sources as my main sources. Just need to save them here so I can retrieve the citation info when I start editing:

• Greenwald, Andy (2003). Nothing Feels Good: Punk Rock, Teenagers, and Emo. New York: St. Martin's Griffin. p. 17–28. ISBN 0-312-30863-9.
• Kelley, Trevor (2010). "The Oral History of Jawbreaker". Alternative Press. 25 (266). Cleveland: 78–82. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

--IllaZilla (talk) 14:44, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Some more sources I intend to use:

• Heisel, Scott (2002-07-24). "Chris Bauermeister's status in Horace Pinker". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Heisel, Scott (2002-08-07). "Jawbreaker tribute album scrapped; MP3s available". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• White, Adam (2003-10-09). "Dear You Reissue Set for February Release". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• White, Adam (2004-01-13). "Update on Jawbreaker re-releases for '04". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Baker, Jordan (2008-08-30). "Jawbreaker / Timmy Hansell (IN HONOR.ORG)". Pastepunk. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Paul, Aubin (2005-10-26). "Jawbreaker documentary taking shape". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Paul, Aubin (2007-02-19). "Adam Pfahler details progress on Jawbreaker documentary". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Paul, Aubin (2007-03-27). "Adam Pfahler talks about Jawbreaker documentary, newly unearthed track". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Paul, Aubin (2008-01-04). "Jawbreaker updates on documentary, recent reunion (!)". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• "Jawbreaker's Unfun to see remastered reissue". Punknews.org. 2008-01-14. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• "Jawbreaker unveils more reissue information". Punknews.org. 2008-02-16. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Paul, Aubin (2008-10-22). "Jawbreaker plans "Unfun" reissue, talks documentary". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Paul, Aubin (2008-10-23). "Blackball confirms wide release for Jawbreaker Unfun reissue". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Raub, Jesse (2008-11-16). "More details, video from the Thorns of Life (Blake Schwarzenbach, Aaron Cometbus)". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Raub, Jesse (2009-03-03). "J. Robbins to record Thorns of Life debut". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• "Break-ups: Thorns of Life (2008-2009); Schwarzenbach forms new band with ex-Against Me! drummer". Punknews.org. 2009-08-23. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• Yancey, Bryne (2010-01-25). "Jawbreaker detail 'Unfun' reissue". Punknews.org. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• "Interviews: Adam Pfahler (Jawbreaker/Blackball Records) - Part 1". Punknews.org. 2010-07-06. Retrieved 2010-09-30.
• "Interviews: Adam Pfahler (Jawbreaker/Blackball Records) - Part 2". Punknews.org. 2010-07-12. Retrieved 2010-09-30.

--IllaZilla (talk) 19:50, 30 September 2010 (UTC)